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No, on the contrast, the West reduce the QUANTITY of arsenal, but the improvement of QUALITY bring the threat of nuclear weapon to a whole new level. For example, before 1980s, US need 3 warheads for every Soviet Silo, but since CEP was narrowed less than 100m, they only need 2.

More importantly, with the technological progress, the conventional weapon can produce the damage as same as nuclear weapons in some circumstances.
You can't stop the progress !
In the France Arsenal, the number of warheads was slightly over 500 in the 90's. Now less than 300.
No more Megaton warhead. The max is the ASMPA with a 300kt.
No more tactical nuc (Pluton, Hades).
The deterrent subs was 6 in the 90's. 4 now.

GB made even more : just the Trident missile on subs. No more ground base or carry by jet missile. In the 200 warheads now.

The US arsenal reached 32000 warheads. less than 2000 now.

About the classical weapon : nothing to have to destruction power of a nuc. The mother of all bomb can't scratched a whole city alone.
 

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You can't stop the progress !
In the France Arsenal, the number of warheads was slightly over 500 in the 90's. Now less than 300.
No more Megaton warhead. The max is the ASMPA with a 300kt.
No more tactical nuc (Pluton, Hades).
The deterrent subs was 6 in the 90's. 4 now.

GB made even more : just the Trident missile on subs. No more ground base or carry by jet missile. In the 200 warheads now.

The US arsenal reached 32000 warheads. less than 2000 now.
I didn't deny the fact that all P5 except China were reducing the warheads (Chinese increase theirs because of US missile defense capability).

I only point out the fact that they are not reducing their nuclear war capability. Instead, their capability is better than cold war era.

About the classical weapon : nothing to have to destruction power of a nuc. The mother of all bomb can't scratched a whole city alone.
But some targets don't need a nuclear weapon to destroy it today, for example: headquarter, logistic center, etc.
 

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I only point out the fact that they are not reducing their nuclear war capability. Instead, their capability is better than cold war era.
I don't agree.
USA with 32000 warheads, with hundreds megatons one, was able to make far more damages than with 2000 today, mos of them in the 100kt each.
 

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INDIA MAY TEST 10,000 KM ICBM, AGNI-6 (SURYA) MISSILE IN THE NEXT 3 YEARS
In January 2018, India tested the Agni-5 missile, capping its official range to 5,000 km, a figure beyond which it would be called an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM). Unofficially, the range of the Agni-5 missile was quoted by analysts as more than 5000 km and would be able to hit the most significant cities on the territory of India’s main geopolitical rival China, including Beijing, Guangzhou, Shanghai and Hong Kong. But, the officials explained that any missile could have an extended range with a lesser payload, better navigation and requires testing. They said the 5000 km range was officially the “confidence level”, meaning that the missile may not perform as designed beyond the range. This also meant India had not officially crossed the Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM) range threshold.

To date, India is armed with four types of missiles of the Agni series and has two other models in testing. The deployed models include Agni-1 with a range of 700 kilometres, Agni-2 with a range of 2 thousand kilometres, Agni-3 and Agni-4 with a range of 2.5 thousand to 3.5 thousand kilometres, respectively. Agni Prime (Agni-P) is a new generation missile under testing. It is expected that Agni P Agni-5 will go into service after the test or may have been deployed, as there is no confirmation.

Soon after the Agni-5 test, VK Saraswat, the then Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) chief, said India was not ready to cap the Agni program.

In 2013, Saraswat said the Agni-4 was in the making, and the hardware was being readied. He said increasing the range was the least challenging task. No official range was given but was estimated to be about 8000 to 10,000 km.

The missile program was called the Surya Missile program, but there was no official acknowledgement of the nomenclature.

The current Russian special operations in Ukraine show how the lone superpower, the U.S, can be restrained by Russia, a country the current U.S. President Joe Biden explained does not want to be an ‘Upper Volta’ with nuclear weapons. The war also shows how China has maintained an independent stance toward the conflict in the face of U.S. coercion. Both have nuclear missiles pointed at the northern American country.

The lessons have not escaped India. It could test or at least ready the Agni-6 missile as a technology demonstrator in the coming three years and validate the computer simulations.

Another reason to test Agni-6 is to hit the farthest corners of China from a safer and survivable distance within the Indian territory.

DRDO personnel have always maintained that they are constantly engaged in researching the newer technologies, including more contemporary materials, better navigation and a more extended range. If the government of the day calls for a newer missile, they would be ready to do so, but the government specifies the range and payload.

As per the current estimates, the Agni-6 missile has a confidence range of up to 10,000 kilometres. In addition, the possibility of launching from a submarine is also being developed. The Indian SSBNs would be able to hit their targets further than the current missiles, which have a limited range. The SSBNs are not expected to leave the security dragnet of the Indian territorial waters.

Officials related to such development in India told Frontier India that the country currently has every technology to counter immediate threats and will develop every technology required for future threat prospective.

The source told Frontier India that the government would officially not admit the Agni-6 program because it currently shares good relations with many countries. Several bilateral and multilateral projects are on. Foreign policy is on new heights, and the country’s influence is increasing day by day on international platforms. At this rising point in time, no country will officially accept the existence of such a developing missile which can target every ally and partner nation.

But unofficially Agni-6 project is on track, and India has already developed many critical technologies required for this missile, and partially we have demonstrated them as well.

The source said that Agni-6 missile has two unique features, a range of more than 10,000 km, and it carries MIRV capability (multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles). MIRVs are independent munitions carried by a single missile that can be used to attack single or multiple targets.

If one can put the payload at the desirable location on Mars. Then it is apparent that it can also put the warhead at any desirable location on earth, he said.

He said the missile would be available to menace India’s adversaries sooner.

It is for the second time in its history that India is trying to develop an ICBM. In the 1970s, India initiated developing an ICBM under the project Valiant under the Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL). The project was terminated, and the liquid fuelled engine developed was rejected by the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) for the reason that the Valiant project was not well managed, and as a civilian organisation, ISRO did not want to cooperate with a sanction-prone military research organisation.
 

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INDIA MAY TEST 10,000 KM ICBM, AGNI-6 (SURYA) MISSILE IN THE NEXT 3 YEARS
In January 2018, India tested the Agni-5 missile, capping its official range to 5,000 km, a figure beyond which it would be called an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM). Unofficially, the range of the Agni-5 missile was quoted by analysts as more than 5000 km and would be able to hit the most significant cities on the territory of India’s main geopolitical rival China, including Beijing, Guangzhou, Shanghai and Hong Kong. But, the officials explained that any missile could have an extended range with a lesser payload, better navigation and requires testing. They said the 5000 km range was officially the “confidence level”, meaning that the missile may not perform as designed beyond the range. This also meant India had not officially crossed the Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile (IRBM) range threshold.

To date, India is armed with four types of missiles of the Agni series and has two other models in testing. The deployed models include Agni-1 with a range of 700 kilometres, Agni-2 with a range of 2 thousand kilometres, Agni-3 and Agni-4 with a range of 2.5 thousand to 3.5 thousand kilometres, respectively. Agni Prime (Agni-P) is a new generation missile under testing. It is expected that Agni P Agni-5 will go into service after the test or may have been deployed, as there is no confirmation.

Soon after the Agni-5 test, VK Saraswat, the then Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) chief, said India was not ready to cap the Agni program.

In 2013, Saraswat said the Agni-4 was in the making, and the hardware was being readied. He said increasing the range was the least challenging task. No official range was given but was estimated to be about 8000 to 10,000 km.

The missile program was called the Surya Missile program, but there was no official acknowledgement of the nomenclature.

The current Russian special operations in Ukraine show how the lone superpower, the U.S, can be restrained by Russia, a country the current U.S. President Joe Biden explained does not want to be an ‘Upper Volta’ with nuclear weapons. The war also shows how China has maintained an independent stance toward the conflict in the face of U.S. coercion. Both have nuclear missiles pointed at the northern American country.

The lessons have not escaped India. It could test or at least ready the Agni-6 missile as a technology demonstrator in the coming three years and validate the computer simulations.

Another reason to test Agni-6 is to hit the farthest corners of China from a safer and survivable distance within the Indian territory.

DRDO personnel have always maintained that they are constantly engaged in researching the newer technologies, including more contemporary materials, better navigation and a more extended range. If the government of the day calls for a newer missile, they would be ready to do so, but the government specifies the range and payload.

As per the current estimates, the Agni-6 missile has a confidence range of up to 10,000 kilometres. In addition, the possibility of launching from a submarine is also being developed. The Indian SSBNs would be able to hit their targets further than the current missiles, which have a limited range. The SSBNs are not expected to leave the security dragnet of the Indian territorial waters.

Officials related to such development in India told Frontier India that the country currently has every technology to counter immediate threats and will develop every technology required for future threat prospective.

The source told Frontier India that the government would officially not admit the Agni-6 program because it currently shares good relations with many countries. Several bilateral and multilateral projects are on. Foreign policy is on new heights, and the country’s influence is increasing day by day on international platforms. At this rising point in time, no country will officially accept the existence of such a developing missile which can target every ally and partner nation.

But unofficially Agni-6 project is on track, and India has already developed many critical technologies required for this missile, and partially we have demonstrated them as well.

The source said that Agni-6 missile has two unique features, a range of more than 10,000 km, and it carries MIRV capability (multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles). MIRVs are independent munitions carried by a single missile that can be used to attack single or multiple targets.

If one can put the payload at the desirable location on Mars. Then it is apparent that it can also put the warhead at any desirable location on earth, he said.

He said the missile would be available to menace India’s adversaries sooner.

It is for the second time in its history that India is trying to develop an ICBM. In the 1970s, India initiated developing an ICBM under the project Valiant under the Defence Research and Development Laboratory (DRDL). The project was terminated, and the liquid fuelled engine developed was rejected by the Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) for the reason that the Valiant project was not well managed, and as a civilian organisation, ISRO did not want to cooperate with a sanction-prone military research organisation.
‘Why three years, when everything for the last five years have been kept in readiness. This should have been tested when China fired their hypersonic missiles a few months back. That would have been a proper answer to Chinese adventurism. Wait here is a killer.
 

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‘Why three years, when everything for the last five years have been kept in readiness. This should have been tested when China fired their hypersonic missiles a few months back. That would have been a proper answer to Chinese adventurism. Wait here is a killer.
An HGV and not a 10,000 km range missile would be a tool to posture China. It will rather ring the bells of threat in western world. Until west becomes hostile to India, India doesn't need a global range missile.
India's SLBM already have virtual global range ICBM capacity.
 

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An HGV and not a 10,000 km range missile would be a tool to posture China. It will rather ring the bells of threat in western world. Until west becomes hostile to India, India doesn't need a global range missile.
India's SLBM already have virtual global range ICBM capacity.
I think we are already developing a HGV known as HGV-202F which is capable of being carried on these missiles
 

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An HGV and not a 10,000 km range missile would be a tool to posture China. It will rather ring the bells of threat in western world. Until west becomes hostile to India, India doesn't need a global range missile.
India's SLBM already have virtual global range ICBM capacity.
I disagree. We need a global range missile as a way of ensuring that no one fucks with us.
 

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India's SLBM already have virtual global range ICBM capacity.
Currently, the K-4 is having 3500km range.
Theoretically, you can send your submarine close to the any enemy's coast and launch from there.
In reality, however, no one do that way because there is too much uncertainties. That means your submarine has to sail thousands km alone without any support. In the meantime, it has to breakthrough the enemy's anti-submarine network made of 3 dimensions - air, surface and underwater. So, except US whose navy controls majority of the ocean, most of the countries' SLBM launch position is very close to their harbor.
In the case of India, it will be Indian Ocean. Then you can easily calculate the range of missile to cover every country:
Russia: >3000km
Europe: >4500km
US: >10000km
These figures are enough to hit the closest border.

So, the only countries that India's SLBM can cover is her neighbors, or Australia, Africa.
 

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So, the only countries that India's SLBM can cover is her neighbors, or Australia, Africa.
You only have two possible ennemy in the near future : pak and China. Your arsenal is good for an immediate retaliation on these.

For all the others, you can send your sub near the threat, at a comfortable distance (saying 2000 km) and fires all the coastal cities and some targets in the mainland. But with a delay, the time the sub goes to destination.
 

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Currently, the K-4 is having 3500km range.
Theoretically, you can send your submarine close to the any enemy's coast and launch from there.
In reality, however, no one do that way because there is too much uncertainties. That means your submarine has to sail thousands km alone without any support. In the meantime, it has to breakthrough the enemy's anti-submarine network made of 3 dimensions - air, surface and underwater. So, except US whose navy controls majority of the ocean, most of the countries' SLBM launch position is very close to their harbor.
In the case of India, it will be Indian Ocean. Then you can easily calculate the range of missile to cover every country:
Russia: >3000km
Europe: >4500km
US: >10000km
These figures are enough to hit the closest border.

So, the only countries that India's SLBM can cover is her neighbors, or Australia, Africa.
SLBM keep lurking in open oceans around the world. That's why you have multiple of them .

Anyway missile ranges will continue to improve. Right now focus is on technology and not range since primary enemies are both in range and both are defence less against even simple ballistic missiles.
 

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You only have two possible ennemy in the near future : pak and China. Your arsenal is good for an immediate retaliation on these.
Both don't require SLBM to deal with.

For all the others, you can send your sub near the threat, at a comfortable distance (saying 2000 km) and fires all the coastal cities and some targets in the mainland. But with a delay, the time the sub goes to destination.
Yes, only if you can travel through a 8000km journey during which you have no intelligence/logistic support and hunted by anti-submarine forces all the way.
 

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Because they all have to face the first navy of the world : USN. But in the case of India, any foe will not be america.
Isn't that my point?
When facing Pak and China, India doesn't need a SLBM at all.
When facing US or Western countries, sending a submarine 8000km away to launch is almost a missile impossible.
 

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Isn't that my point?
When facing Pak and China, India doesn't need a SLBM at all.
When facing US or Western countries, sending a submarine 8000km away to launch is almost a missile impossible.
SLBM is usefull for retaliate.
A hard first strike may destroy all your airfields and your ground based missiles. It's why a SLBM is so important, and why GB for exemple only have this nuc component.
 

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