Afghan Govt claims Pak Army Captain, suicide bombers arrested in Afghanistan

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why lal masjid when we have mumbai

A Chronology of Pakistani Court Drama & Perfidy

On July 17, 2009,Pak files chargesheet against 5 accused
On July 24th, Pakistan puts off Mumbai case for month (Sharm-el-Sheikh was just over)
On Aug. 29th,Pak Court adjourns 26/11 trial and bars media coverage
On Sep. 18th, Anti Terrorism Court in Karachi adjourns 26/11 hearing to Sep. 26
On Sep 26th, Pakistan adjourns Mumbai attack hearing till Oct. 3
On Oct. 3rd, Pakistan adjourns the 26/11 trial yet again
On Oct 10, 26/11 terrorists charged by Pakistani court, but the Judge deliberately flouts laws to leave an escape clause for the terrorists
On Oct. 20th, the judge hearing the case wants to be recused because of 'unavoidable reasons'
On Oct. 23rd, a new Judge was appointed
On Oct. 25th, 26/11 case in Pakistani court adjourned for another week
On Oct. 31, Mumbai Attack Case postponed by a week in Pak
On Nov. 14th, Pak court reschedules hearing for Nov. 16
On Nov. 16th, Pak court adjourns trial until Nov. 23
On Nov. 23rd, the Judge reserved judgement until 25th on quality and legal admissibility of some evidence (PM Man Mohan Singh is on a State visit to the US at this time)
On Nov. 25th, the ATC, Adiala indicted the seven accused (and nine others including Ajmal Kasab) after allowing the legality and admissibility of the prosecution's evidence. The judge separated Kasab's case from the rest.
On Dec. 1st, the terrorists challenge the indictment in the Lahore High Court.
On Dec. 3rd, the Lahore High Court dismissed the petitions filed by the 7 terrorists challenging their indictment.
On Dec. 5th, the ATC, Adiala adjourns the case by another week as defence lawyers fail to appear
On Dec. 12th, the ATC adjourns the trial as the accused plead for acquittal. The trial will not resume until acquittal appliations are disposed of.
On Dec. 19th, the ATC adjourns the case until Dec. 24th
On Dec. 24th, the ATC adjourns the case until Jan. 6th
On Jan. 06, 2010, the ATC rejected the appeal for acquittal and asked prosecution to present evidence on Jan. 16
On Jan. 16, 2010, the ATC adjourns hearing until Jan. 23 pending disposal of Lakhvi's appeal in Lahore HC
On Jan. 22, 2010, the Lahore High Court dismisses Lakhvi's appeal to transfer the case from ATC to LHC
On Jan. 23, 2010, the ATC adjourns hearing until Jan. 30 as defence lawyers boycott the court protesting inadequate security for them
On Jan. 30, 2010, the Pakistani government presents proof on all the seven; Court adjourned until Feb. 13
On Feb. 13, 2010, the court could not transact any business as the judge was busy with another official work.
On Feb. 20, 2010, the proceedings could not take place due to Bar Council elections. Adjourned until Mar. 6
On Mar. 09, 2010, a bench of the Lahore High Court rules that the Statement of Kasab given to a Mumbai High Court cannot be used against the accused
On Mar. 13, 2010, the ATC, Adiala accepted a plea by Prosecution to declare Kasab as a fugitive. This is necessitated because the Lahore HC declined to accept Kasab's statements in Indian courts as admissible evidence and ordered that Kasab also be tried along with the seven accused
On Mar. 20, 2010, the Defence wanted Kasab to be brought to Adiala ATC before their own trial can proceed as the Lahore High Court had ordered all the accused to be tried together and the FIA had wanted the court to proclaim Kasab as a 'fugitive' to circumvent the court's order
On Mar. 27, 2010, ATC, Adiala dismissed application by the accused seven to treat Kasab & Ansari as proclaimed offenders
On Apr. 03, 2010, ATC, Adiala adjourns the case to Apr. 17 after prosecution decides to seek Interpol's Red Corner Notice to get Ajmal Kasab & Fahim Ansari to Pakistan
On Apr. 17, 2010, there was no hearing at ATC, Adiala as the Judge was on leave.
On Apr. 19, 2010, Supreme Court of Pakistan asks the Federal Government to reply on Lakhvi's petition seeking his acquittal from the Adiala case
On Apr. 19, 2010, the ATC, Adiala court adjourns hearing until May. 8
On Apr. 19, 2010, Punjab High Court bench at Rawalpindi reserves order on acceptance of Kasab, Ansari statements in the Indian Court
 

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Kasab's is yours now, you can do what ever you want to do but the point remains there is not enough evidence to convict Hafiz Saeed, he can rant on in Public but show us the proof against Hafiz Saeed but why not discuss the Indian involvement in 26/11, something I have seen Indians ignore, this business is not a simple one, you people over simplify it :p

BTW are you Indian or Pakistani?
 
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By hashish Amry I mean this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2F80llZ5F4

as for Drug Trafficking, Even bro of Mayor of Presidential Palace in Kabul, his highness Hamid Karazi is a Drug Lord, how many Drug Lords are you going to eliminate, Afghan Gov is full of them & americans wont mind using them against Taliban thats the reason they are there as for Pakistan Army name a Hasish Trader thats sitting in GHQ in Rawalpindi at least i dont know of one, We are not Afghanistan & world knows that, the Af-Pak term is restricted to border Areas of Afgh-Pak dont try to extend it to Rawalpindi, as for 80s, its a fact that CIA & Pakistan used Taliban to kick Soviets there is no doubt about it & no one will deny it



yup i am no one, neither are you

as for altruistic motives, the game is certainly on to outscore each others 'altruistic motives', just wait & see
And how many of the pak army officers were/are involved along with druglords of afghanistan.when serving army officers were arrested forhaving terror links as in cas of attack on mushy then you cant simply white wash that out of 6.5 million men none is involved in drug trade .hope you have watched the Cal. Imam's interview in pakistan.For being in afghanistan you need not to be present there.and sure game is up and sure we 'll play and also see coz india has elephant's patience.
 

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Kasab's is yours now, you can do what ever you want to do but the point remains there is not enough evidence to convict Hafiz Saeed, he can rant on in Public but show us the proof against Hafiz Saeed but why not discuss the Indian involvement in 26/11, something I have seen Indians ignore, this business is not a simple one, people over simplify it :p

BTW are you Indian or Pakistani?
There are 4 other guys remember just to jog your memory there your own FIA arrested them and your own Interior minister proudly announced on geo one Feb afternoon in 2009=heheh
 

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And how many of the pak army officers were/are involved along with druglords of afghanistan.when serving army officers were arrested forhaving terror links as in cas of attack on mushy then you cant simply white wash that out of 6.5 million men none is involved in drug trade .hope you have watched the Cal. Imam's interview in pakistan.For being in afghanistan you need not to be present there.and sure game is up and sure we 'll play and also see coz india has elephant's patience.
I told you i don't know of any Generals in GHQ involved with Drug Lords, bring them in, PA cannot put a check on every one same implies on every army in world, the fact is that if some rogue elements are involved they are involved for their personal gains,I am in no white washing it, I know no one's innocent in this sh!t something you people don't understand at all,

Afghan Establishment is a Gov of Drug Lords & there are obvious reasons why they are part of it & we all know Hizb-e-Islami is coming into picture, with Indian Analysts talking about having 'Talks with the Good Taliban for Indians' the same group which Indians & you label as the 'pet dogs of ISI' & 'Good Taliban which Pakistan will use', now tell me that Democratic Nation of India will never ever think of talking to Taliban Factions that are sending signals to India, it all happens & game is certainly on
 
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I told you i don't know of any Generals in GHQ involved with Drug Lords, bring them in, PA cannot put a check on every one same implies on every army in world, the fact is that if some rogue elements are involved they are involved for their personal gains,I am in no white washing it, I know no one's innocent in this sh!t something you people don't understand at all,

Afghan Establishment is a Gov of Drug Lords & there are obvious reasons why they are part of it & we all know Hizb-e-Islami is coming into picture, with Indian Analysts talking about having 'Talks with the Good Taliban for Indians' the same group which Indians & you label as the 'pet dogs of ISI' & 'Good Taliban which Pakistan will use', now tell me that Democratic Nation of India will never ever think of talking to Taliban Factions that are sending signals to India, it all happens & game is certainly on
sure you wont be knowing hence sure you just cant whitewash it with past 3 decades of experience.Old habits die hard.de-addiction of any thing is difficult task.As for the democracy---Indian democracy is for its bonafide citizens.And yes India which was once hell bent on not talking to taliban is sure will talk to tem but only for the 4000 indian citizen working their its indian govt's duty to take care of its citizen in foreign lands.you are free to term that as blood money of 4000 indian citizens according to the customs and code of pukhtoonwali.remember india once too paid in exchane of its hijacked passenger jet in 1999.Moreover in rome do as the romans do:)
 
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sure you wont be knowing hence sure you just cant whitewash it with past 3 decades of experience.Old habits die hard.de-addiction of any thing is difficult task.As for the democracy---Indian democracy is for its bonafide citizens.And yes India which was once hell bent on not talking to taliban is sure will talk to tem but only for the 4000 indian citizen working their its indian govt's duty to take care of its citizen in foreign lands.you are free to term that as blood money of 4000 indian citizens according to the customs and code of pukhtoonwali.remember india once too paid in exchane of its hijacked passenger jet in 1999.Moreover in rome do as the romans do:)
you are yet to give me anything credible about PA Officers involved with Drug Lords, why should i take your word?

so now Indians are down to 'While in Rome DO as Roman do', so much for Moral, Good & Bad Taliban, now we have Moderate Taliban tsk tsk.....


& that too Gullbadin Hekyatmar Yar, after Mullah Bradar ohhhh MY!!!
so where are people which were talking about distinction b/w Good & Bad Taliban, come back & start concluding things



In the wake of a possible American pullout from Kabul next year, New Delhi has sharply re-oriented its strategy towards Afghanistan by reaching out to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar's Hizb-e-Islami party and keeping its door open in case of a reconciliation effort by the Taliban.

While the new Afghan policy is being crafted at the highest levels with National Security Advisor Shiv Shankar Menon playing a lead role, New Delhi is learnt to have made contact with Hizb-e-Islami party even though it knows that Hekmatyar is firmly under Pakistani control. New Delhi is also now amenable to talking to Taliban in case the latter are to open an engagement. This change in Indian posture comes as Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid also talked about reconciling with India.

Top government sources told The Indian Express that New Delhi wants to reach out to the second generation Pashtun leaders like Nangarhar Governor Gul Agha Sherzai, and is with the former Northern Alliance leaders like Marshal Fahim, Karim Khallili and Mohammed Mohaqiq in backing President Hamid Karzai's government.

This fine-tuning of India's position on Afghanistan comes after exchange of views between top diplomats. After the February attack on Indians in Kabul, Vice-President Hamid Ansari, Pakistan-Afghanistan envoy Satinder Lambah and former West Asia envoy Chinmay Gharekhan wanted India to adopt a neutral position in Afghanistan. This essentially meant keeping out of Aghanistan politics but carrying on the development works in the war-torn republic.

This month, this view was nuanced further by the UPA government, with New Delhi now all for an independent or neutral Afghanistan that does not require the crutches of neighbouring Pakistan. According to a paper prepared by the Ministry of External Affairs on the subject, India should back an Afghanistan that keeps out terrorism emanating from Pakistan and does not allow the state to slip back into the violence spiral of 1990s. The sub-text of the paper is that Afghanistan will come under the total influence of Pakistan if New Delhi were to let matters go out of hand.

While a section in South Block wants India to go back to supporting the former Northern Alliance faction, the fact is that all the top six alliance leaders are firmly backing Karzai, including Marshal Fahim, heir of legendary Ahmed Shah Masood, and Uzbek leader Mohammed Dostum. New Delhi is conscious of the fact that its former allies like Iran of the Northern Alliance days are still confused on whether they want the Americans out or the Taliban.


It is in this context that New Delhi wants to reach out to Pashtuns in the south and on the Durand Line while retaining ties with its Northern Alliance friends and President Karzai. So rather than the expected downscaling of Indian engagement in Afghanistan, New Delhi is all for enlarging it, lest it wants to let the republic be dominated by extremist forces of the past.
 
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There are 4 other guys remember just to jog your memory there your own FIA arrested them and your own Interior minister proudly announced on geo one Feb afternoon in 2009=heheh
but the point remians, why you people want to ignore the Indian connection?
 

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Karzai is coming to India tomorrow and the brave Afghan police who can not catch a mosquito have nabbed an officer of Pakistan army =omg=

ehh pretty fast but not so fast. ISI is not fool to resort to use of Placement instead of assets. Karzai is trying his best to derail the negotiations US has initiated along with Pakistan with the Taliban fighters for peace. Earlier he tried to hold talks with some selected ones bypassing the US and Pakistan but that plan was busted and he was left red-faced.
 

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why lal masjid when we have mumbai

A Chronology of Pakistani Court Drama & Perfidy

On July 17, 2009,Pak files chargesheet against 5 accused
On July 24th, Pakistan puts off Mumbai case for month (Sharm-el-Sheikh was just over)
On Aug. 29th,Pak Court adjourns 26/11 trial and bars media coverage
On Sep. 18th, Anti Terrorism Court in Karachi adjourns 26/11 hearing to Sep. 26
On Sep 26th, Pakistan adjourns Mumbai attack hearing till Oct. 3
On Oct. 3rd, Pakistan adjourns the 26/11 trial yet again
On Oct 10, 26/11 terrorists charged by Pakistani court, but the Judge deliberately flouts laws to leave an escape clause for the terrorists
On Oct. 20th, the judge hearing the case wants to be recused because of 'unavoidable reasons'
On Oct. 23rd, a new Judge was appointed
On Oct. 25th, 26/11 case in Pakistani court adjourned for another week
On Oct. 31, Mumbai Attack Case postponed by a week in Pak
On Nov. 14th, Pak court reschedules hearing for Nov. 16
On Nov. 16th, Pak court adjourns trial until Nov. 23
On Nov. 23rd, the Judge reserved judgement until 25th on quality and legal admissibility of some evidence (PM Man Mohan Singh is on a State visit to the US at this time)
On Nov. 25th, the ATC, Adiala indicted the seven accused (and nine others including Ajmal Kasab) after allowing the legality and admissibility of the prosecution's evidence. The judge separated Kasab's case from the rest.
On Dec. 1st, the terrorists challenge the indictment in the Lahore High Court.
On Dec. 3rd, the Lahore High Court dismissed the petitions filed by the 7 terrorists challenging their indictment.
On Dec. 5th, the ATC, Adiala adjourns the case by another week as defence lawyers fail to appear
On Dec. 12th, the ATC adjourns the trial as the accused plead for acquittal. The trial will not resume until acquittal appliations are disposed of.
On Dec. 19th, the ATC adjourns the case until Dec. 24th
On Dec. 24th, the ATC adjourns the case until Jan. 6th
On Jan. 06, 2010, the ATC rejected the appeal for acquittal and asked prosecution to present evidence on Jan. 16
On Jan. 16, 2010, the ATC adjourns hearing until Jan. 23 pending disposal of Lakhvi's appeal in Lahore HC
On Jan. 22, 2010, the Lahore High Court dismisses Lakhvi's appeal to transfer the case from ATC to LHC
On Jan. 23, 2010, the ATC adjourns hearing until Jan. 30 as defence lawyers boycott the court protesting inadequate security for them
On Jan. 30, 2010, the Pakistani government presents proof on all the seven; Court adjourned until Feb. 13
On Feb. 13, 2010, the court could not transact any business as the judge was busy with another official work.
On Feb. 20, 2010, the proceedings could not take place due to Bar Council elections. Adjourned until Mar. 6
On Mar. 09, 2010, a bench of the Lahore High Court rules that the Statement of Kasab given to a Mumbai High Court cannot be used against the accused
On Mar. 13, 2010, the ATC, Adiala accepted a plea by Prosecution to declare Kasab as a fugitive. This is necessitated because the Lahore HC declined to accept Kasab's statements in Indian courts as admissible evidence and ordered that Kasab also be tried along with the seven accused
On Mar. 20, 2010, the Defence wanted Kasab to be brought to Adiala ATC before their own trial can proceed as the Lahore High Court had ordered all the accused to be tried together and the FIA had wanted the court to proclaim Kasab as a 'fugitive' to circumvent the court's order
On Mar. 27, 2010, ATC, Adiala dismissed application by the accused seven to treat Kasab & Ansari as proclaimed offenders
On Apr. 03, 2010, ATC, Adiala adjourns the case to Apr. 17 after prosecution decides to seek Interpol's Red Corner Notice to get Ajmal Kasab & Fahim Ansari to Pakistan
On Apr. 17, 2010, there was no hearing at ATC, Adiala as the Judge was on leave.
On Apr. 19, 2010, Supreme Court of Pakistan asks the Federal Government to reply on Lakhvi's petition seeking his acquittal from the Adiala case
On Apr. 19, 2010, the ATC, Adiala court adjourns hearing until May. 8
On Apr. 19, 2010, Punjab High Court bench at Rawalpindi reserves order on acceptance of Kasab, Ansari statements in the Indian Court
It shows the level of thorough investigation and it was Pakistani investigation that India has come to know many things otherwise you guys are still trying to throw arrows in the dark.

One small question why you failed to punish Kasab when according to India, you have proved everything against him.

Go get him ;)


India still failed to find out who killed ATS chief Karkare .
 

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Karzai threatened to Join Taliban, can you believe it Mayor Presidential Palace threatened to Join Taliban, may be he was talking about the Moderate Taliban, after all , Indians say 'While in Rome do as Romans do', so be it, Indians must stop giving lessons of their Morality & innocence along with their altruistic motives
 

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And how many of the pak army officers were/are involved along with druglords of afghanistan.when serving army officers were arrested forhaving terror links as in cas of attack on mushy then you cant simply white wash that out of 6.5 million men none is involved in drug trade .hope you have watched the Cal. Imam's interview in pakistan.For being in afghanistan you need not to be present there.and sure game is up and sure we 'll play and also see coz india has elephant's patience.
bwahahaha ehh dont be childish man. There is no big case against Pakistan army or any serving officer of involvment in drug traffic whereas is its on record that CIA has been traficking drugs in US military aircrafts .,
 

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India still failed to find out who killed ATS chief Karkare .
Plus Indians wont like to talk about this, this thing has just disappeared in the mist, Indians just love to over simplify everything down to PA/ISI, a Muslim & wanted in a plot to assassinate Narinder Modi, does it rings bells in minds of Indians? I highly doubt if Indians ever discussed it or even know about it

Abu Jindal, Indian link to 26/11, identified - dnaindia.com

Abu Jindal, Indian link to 26/11, identified
Nikhil Dixit / DNA
Tuesday, February 2, 2010 1:03 IST


Mumbai: Abu Jindal, one of the alleged masterminds of the 26/11 terror attacks in Mumbai, has been identified by the intelligence agencies. He is said to be Syed Zabiuddin Ansari, sources in the central intelligence agencies said.

This identification establishes the Indian link in the planning and execution of the terror attacks, for Ansari is an Indian hailing from Aurangabad district in Maharashtra. He is wanted in the Aurangabad arms haul case and also in the plot to assassinate Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi.

The lone arrested terrorist of the 26/11 terror attacks, Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, had said in a statement to the special court that a person named Abu Jindal had taught Hindi to the 10 terrorists. Kasab also claimed that Abu Jindal was among the top functionaries of the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT). Indian intelligence agencies, which have been trying to piece together the jigsaw puzzle, believe that Abu Jindal is Ansari.

According to intelligence sources, they have been able to identify
Ansari based on inputs from arrested terrorists and by matching the voice samples of Ansari and the 26/11 handler who was directing the terrorists through voice-over-internet protocol (VoIP). "We have information that there was an Indian in the LeT control room during the 26/11 terror attacks. Based on intelligence inputs and information provided by arrested terrorists in Kashmir, we believe that the Indian is Ansari, who fled the country in 2005," said a senior central intelligence officer.

Ansari had escaped when a Mumbai police team had seized a huge cache of arms, ammunition and explosives from Aurangabad.

In the raid, the police arrested 11 people who were allegedly linked to LeT and the Students Islamic Movement of India (Simi), but Ansari managed to give them the slip.

"After fleeing from Aurangabad, Ansari went to Bangladesh and from there to Pakistan. He was reportedly last seen in Karachi," the officer said. According to the police, Ansari also played a key role in an abortive plot to assassinate Gujarat chief minister Narendra Modi.
 
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MOD:- Please Stay on Topic, dont bring in non issues while we are Discussing an Afghan issue.
 

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MOD:- Please Stay on Topic, dont bring in non issues while we are Discussing an Afghan issue.
Mods we have the right to clarify the things & moreover me or Jana never brought in 26/11, i think you cannot disconnect all these issues, after all Indians like to simplify things down to ISI/PA, so i dont see anything wrong in replying
 
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An Army captain... thats a serious matter. That is the rank of field officers for ISI. If Pakistan is operating suicide bombers in Afghanistan, The West will have to revaluate the relationship with a rouge nation.
 

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An Army captain... thats a serious matter. That is the rank of field officers for ISI. If Pakistan is operating suicide bombers in Afghanistan, The West will have to revaluate the relationship with a rouge nation.
I have heard Obama will be coming down to Sarkozi for more French Troops in Afghanistan, French must raise this issue with US & re evaluate the relationship with Pakistan, let see how long ISAF will survive without Pakistan & BTW we are yet to see the 'proof' so rein your horse
 

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