ADA Tejas Mark-II/Medium Weight Fighter

[IndianHawk]

Why is IAF so confident he cannot see through that charade? Was called the MWF for atleast a few years after all, allegedly changed at IAFs insistence. Anyone can see what's going on here.

I think GOI is aware and only playing along. After all no RFP has been issues for MRFA and if we listen to like of PKS then no RFP will be issued either.

Goi is dragging IAF along until mwf starts production.

I may be wrong though but as I said before modi who is shouting atma-nirbhar from every platform would not sign a 25 billion check for 114 mrfa.

 

[johnj]

Let's focus on making world-class fighter jets first. Building a homegrown engine is an orthogonal project & has nothing to do with designing/developing/manufacturing world-class fighter jets. At the moment I don't think we have the volumes to invest in R&D required to come up with engines comparable with a GE 404, GE 414, GE F110, Pratt & Whitney F135. BTW, we will need all these classes of engines for the various models that we have in plan. Once we have proven to the world (by way of exports) that we can build these world-class fighter jets efficiently. We will have the necessary volumes to have indigenous engine plants. Until then we can continue either importing or manufacturing engines in a JV. The Indian private sector anyway has started manufacturing OEM components for GE engines. This is actually the way forward.

LCA tejas is a world class fighter jet.
No engine, no world class fighter jet.
The Indian private sector anyway has started manufacturing OEM components for GE engines - which private sector & what OEM components?
Engine is the most important part of a aircraft, without local engine we can build a world class fighter jet not the world best.
If India can fund nuclear pgrm, then can also fund engine pgrm, and its depends on gov.

 

[johnj]

i was wondering something that,
Say, original Rafale prototype was powered by F-404 engine itself and once M-88 was certified ready for induction after perhaps 4-5 years of that they switched over to it and so, and M-88 is actually smaller engine in terms of dimensions than F-404.
They also had side projects of M-88-3 with bigger profile and enhanced maximum thrust of 93 kN (on afterburner) meant for certain ;single engine fighter; and M-88-4 with even more maximum thrust of 105 kN meant for a proposed variant of JAS-39C Gripen that didn't happen as SAAB chose for F-414 instead
^so i wonder if we could try to bring M-88-3 and M-88-4 here with that JV offer, an M-88-4 derivative in similar size of F-414 etc would do wonders for our proposed indigeneous jet fighter projects and it was already rated maxx for 105 kN so going further on it for that 110 kN engine would also be relatively easier than trying to build a new engine design from scratch.

Still its French tech, and paying 5 billion for 4.5 gen is not good today.
Need 5.5 gen engine for 5.5 gen jet, better one than f135.

 

[Bhaubai]

Lesss goooo

 

[jai jaganath]

Lesss goooo

Sauce ?

 

[flanker99]

Yes bolke aao hutio.

 

[flanker99]

Sauce ?

The guy is the sauce he works for janes intel

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

during AI2019 it was called Medium Weight Fighter, but from AI2021, they stared calling it again as LCA-Mk2 instead of MWF. I guess the reason might be IAF. They may have thought that kadi ninda may shove it down their throat and cancel MRFA if he realises that Mk-2 is also in the same category as Gripen-E/F & F-16

Kadi Ninda used to be a Physics lecturer before he entered politics, so he knows his numbers.
Even a layman can tell that MWF is no LCA just by looking at the renders and the models

 

[Gessler]

Just saying...It's been nearly 10 years since this thread was opened.

 

[Steven Rogers]

Kadi Ninda used to be a Physics lecturer before he entered politics, so he knows his numbers.
Even a layman can tell that MWF is no LCA just by looking at the renders and the models

Kadi ninda is a politician,he has more interest is securing his political future and votes than doing actual work as RM...

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

Just saying...It's been nearly 10 years since this thread was opened.

Few months left

 

[silverghost]

Answers inlined.

LCA tejas is a world class fighter jet.
<sg> If Tejas Mk1 was a world class fighter jet, we wouldn't build only 40 of them.
No engine, no world class fighter jet.
<sg> Is Gripen a world-class fighter jet? Which engine does it have?
The Indian private sector anyway has started manufacturing OEM components for GE engines - which private sector & what OEM components?
<sg> Look at the project profiles of TASL & which OEM components it's making for Lockheed Martin & Boeing.
Engine is the most important part of a aircraft, without local engine we can build a world class fighter jet not the world best.
<sg> Says who? Gripen, LM, Eurofighter, Mitsubishi - none of them manufacture engines yet they manufacture the best fighter jets in the world.
If India can fund nuclear pgrm, then can also fund engine pgrm, and its depends on gov.
<sg> Different field, different challenges plus R&D expenses don't depend on volumes for optimizing cost.

 

[IndianHawk]

Just saying...It's been nearly 10 years since this thread was opened.

It's called Indian standard time .

Anyway be glad that thread is still open and running otherwise an one point of time entre lca program was going to be ended with just 40 foc jets.
Then parrikar pushed for mk1a and now rajnath has given money for mk2 / mwf development at last .

 

[IndianHawk]

Good thread.

 

[IndianHawk]

Seems legit. Engine should be the only important major import also ejection seat .

By value they should be under 15-20% .

 

[AVAST]

Seems legit. Engine should be the only important major import also ejection seat .

By value they should be under 15-20% .

Sometimes it's cheaper to import instead of spending a billion on rnd. Like packings

 

[jai jaganath]

Seems legit. Engine should be the only important major import also ejection seat .

By value they should be under 15-20% .

But in latter stages I mean after 19th mk1a won't the indigenous content be more than 70% by lrus

 

[SUPERPOWER]

Can Anyone ID the Aircraft..

 

[Lonewolf]

Can Anyone ID the Aircraft..

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Sauce

 

[Akula]

Can Anyone ID the Aircraft..

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Tejas Mk1. Same image was posted in this thread few months back.