ADA Tejas Mark-II/Medium Weight Fighter

[Javelin_Sam]

Not new from the scratch but modified, lca timelines doesn't hold for mk2

Of course I didn't mean lca timelines will hold. But expect atleast 5 years from first flight to IOC-SP1 if everything goes smoothly. In fact of we can do it in 5 years, we can proudly state that India has 'arrived' at the global aerospace design and development 'club' as far as fighter jets are considered. If there is anything that holds back us from rolling out a potent 5th gen fighter, it will be the lack of a suitable engine

 

[pipebomb]

Of course I didn't mean lca timelines will hold. But expect atleast 5 years from first flight to IOC-SP1 if everything goes smoothly. In fact of we can do it in 5 years, we can proudly state that India has 'arrived' at the global aerospace design and development 'club' as far as fighter jets are considered. If there is anything that holds back us from rolling out a potent 5th gen fighter, it will be the lack of a suitable engine

To me failure of mk2 will be if mk1a deliveries end and production line comes to stop or rate of production has to slow down to cater to delays in mk2 testing. Ada has to complete test for max aoa, str, speed within ioc testing unlike tejas. They can't do any structural changes after ioc, this should be their goal imho.

 

[fire starter]

 

[pipebomb]

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A slight bulge near canard & body joint which was not present in earlier models or atleast i am seeing for the first time. Can't wait for prototype rollout, but also first flight.

 

[THESIS THORON]

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is that thing das (behind the cockpit) ??

 

[Emperor Kalki]

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Wasn't that slot on the wing supposed to be removed as per......

Tracking The Tejas: How The Tejas Mk2 Design Became The Medium Weight Fighter | Delhi Defence Review

delhidefencereview.com

"The slot which redirects some of this air over the wing in MK1 is eliminated in MWF, as smooth flow over the wings behind the canards is desirable."

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

is that thing das (behind the cockpit) ??

DC MAWS (one of the sensor).

Edit: MK2 will have 4 sensors of DCMAWS.

 

[THESIS THORON]

DC MAWS (one of the sensor).

Edit: MK2 will have 4 sensors of DCMAWS.

but why??
when tejas mk2 will get foc at that time das will be totally ready.

 

[Emperor Kalki]

A slight bulge near canard & body joint which was not present in earlier models or atleast i am seeing for the first time. Can't wait for prototype rollout, but also first flight.

Not the first time we are seeing it, and I suspect (this is just a guess and could possibly be proven as really stupid) it may also have to do something with rear visibility when the canard pitches.

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

but why??
when tejas mk2 will get foc at that time das will be totally ready.

Dont know brother.
if i had to guess "Space problem" i don't think after mk2 upgrade there will be any space left in the nose.

 

[THESIS THORON]

Dont know brother.
if i had to guess "Space problem" i don't think after mk2 upgrade there will be any space left in the nose.

duh, in tejas mk1 there was space problem for upgrades.

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

duh, in tejas mk1 there was space problem for upgrades.

that's why they added few meters in the frame of mk2.
what we know about mk2 upgrade:

new and bigger radar
smaller nose cone
retractable refueling probe (most probably one used in jaguar )
IRST
few senors upgrade
lighter HUD

 

[Bleh]

Wasn't that slot on the wing supposed to be removed as per......

Tracking The Tejas: How The Tejas Mk2 Design Became The Medium Weight Fighter | Delhi Defence Review

delhidefencereview.com

"The slot which redirects some of this air over the wing in MK1 is eliminated in MWF, as smooth flow over the wings behind the canards is desirable."

Back again

 

[Emperor Kalki]

Back again

Ah yes, it was on the model displayed at the last aero india. Never quite saw a picture from the right angle to notice it till today.

 

[Vamsi]

Early next year ?

 

[pipebomb]

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Not the first time we are seeing it, and I suspect (this is just a guess and could possibly be proven as really stupid) it may also have to do something with rear visibility when the canard pitches.

Maybe the bulge wasn't pronounced due to the angle in pics i have seen or i could have completely overlooked it. Thanks for correcting me. By the way there is nothing stupid in speculating, overthinking will only imped your curiosity.

 

[pipebomb]

but why??
when tejas mk2 will get foc at that time das will be totally ready.

DCMAWS is ready for quite some. One of the learning from tejas particularly kaveri is de-risking you project as much as possible.

 

[pipebomb]

Wasn't that slot on the wing supposed to be removed as per......

Tracking The Tejas: How The Tejas Mk2 Design Became The Medium Weight Fighter | Delhi Defence Review

delhidefencereview.com

"The slot which redirects some of this air over the wing in MK1 is eliminated in MWF, as smooth flow over the wings behind the canards is desirable."

Couldn't be sure till we see the real thing. They are quite close to rolling out the prototype now that we probably won't see any new models.

 

[pipebomb]

that's why they added few meters in the frame of mk2.
what we know about mk2 upgrade:

new and bigger radar
smaller nose cone
retractable refueling probe (most probably one used in jaguar )
IRST
few senors upgrade
lighter HUD

Why jaguar, do have any official/unofficial info on this.

 

[BON PLAN]

But same wing not like tedbf which has a completely new wing

Same wings but with closed coupled canards all is changing (not the case with long coupled canards...).
The wing lift is really changed, not only increased. With close coupled canards the center of lift is also moving.