ADA Tejas Mark-II/Medium Weight Fighter

[IndianHawk]

This should seal the deal for Kaveri shouldn't it, tot from GE can help in developing kaveri.

That's only transfer of manufacturing technology. Nothing to do with kaveri issues.

 

[Hydra3]

One stealth program is costly enough. Mwf , tedbf and orca are not new designs they are evolution of lca platform . Now with more budget and expertise they are taking shape .

Similarly AMCA will build stealth expertise first. And provide a platform for stealth technologies and next gen networking solutions / dron swarm / wingman control etc. Once we have that by 2030 we will move forward with evolving amca platform it could go bigger too at that time depending upon how 6th gen concepts take shape.

MKI is getting old, and we may have to search for proer replacement for mki from 2040 or 45 onwards. Proper replacement means a new aircraft with similar endurance &payload capacity.

Will AMCA fit in to that mki box? I dont think so. Snd we all saw how reluctant was IAF initially with LCA due to its endurance & payload limitations.

 

[IndianHawk]

MKI is getting old, and we may have to search for proer replacement for mki from 2040 or 45 onwards. Proper replacement means a new aircraft with similar endurance &payload capacity.

Will AMCA fit in to that mki box? I dont think so. Snd we all saw how reluctant was IAF initially with LCA due to its endurance & payload limitations.

The era of heavy or medium or light is gone.
IAF wants mwf type range so that it can swing between China and Pakistan frontier in case of two front action. Payload of lca is sufficient for most cases.

By2040 I think unmanned UCAV will do the risky jobs such as bombing . So no need for heavy manned jets. 5-6th gen jets will evolve as system of systems with lot of unmanned drones both small and big in network with them. Aura and other stealth drone will penetrate e emeny air space.

Most probably su30 replacement will be optionally manned bigger version of AMCA which could come by 2050. That's all too far out. Right now we are still building su30 which with mid life upgrad keep serving till 2060!!

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

That's only transfer of manufacturing technology. Nothing to do with kaveri issues.

They will be only willing to help if F-18 SH wins both MMRCA and 57 Naval jets contract.
F-18 SH chances in MMRCA are too low, their only hope is winning the 57 naval jets tender.

 

[Bleh]

IAF’s fighter pilots, with several of them arguing that even a futuristic twin-engine LCA MK II will not match up to the Rafale in every domain. However, it now appears to be on a stable footing with complete government and corporate backing, and an excellent and committed team. A current LCA test pilot argues, “LCA now represents India in a big way – not just HAL anymore. LCA-bashing should get behind us, sooner than later.”

https://www.deccanherald.com/amp/op...oc-tape-819475.html?__twitter_impression=true

Cat is out of bag. Orca seems to be real now. Both tedbf and orca will go ahead it seems.

Post a copy atleast in ORCA thread why here?

 

[IndianHawk]

Post a copy atleast in ORCA thread why here?

Didn't know orca thread exists.

 

[IndianHawk]

They will be only willing to help if F-18 SH wins both MMRCA and 57 Naval jets contract.
F-18 SH chances in MMRCA are too low, their only hope is winning the 57 naval jets tender.

Even then they won't provide what we need only cold section tech will be given which we have mastered ourselves. Engine development is a fight we have to win on our own just likes nukes and cryogenics and ICBM.

 

[Bleh]

Didn't know orca thread exists.

What? You have posted there before.TEDBF or ORCA updates
Did you not notice where you are posting! :grin:

 

[IndianHawk]

What? You have posted there before.TEDBF or ORCA updates
Did you not notice where you are posting! :grin:

I just saw the tedbf in the title . Orca was not on my mind before today .:biggrin2:

 

[Hydra3]

Even then they won't provide what we need only cold section tech will be given which we have mastered ourselves. Engine development is a fight we have to win on our own just likes nukes and cryogenics and ICBM.

True, no ine gonna give you the know how on jet engine tech.

 

[dude00720]

Cockpit, sensor fusion, mission systems, sensors etc are from AMCA R&D coming to MWF

 

[Steven Rogers]

What is the status of CSIO HUD MK2. Why Lite Hud was chosen for MWF,will this mean that LITE HUD will forever be on MWF and all the claims by CSIO regarding this technology will be go in vain?????anyone can answer....(in pic this is samtel-thales hud and has no relation with CSIO)

 

[Karthi]

What is the status of CSIO HUD MK2. Why Lite Hud was chosen for MWF,will this mean that LITE HUD will forever be on MWF and all the claims by CSIO regarding this technology will be go in vain?????anyone can answer....(in pic this is samtel-thales hud and has no relation with CSIO)View attachment 45347

Under development, project on going.

 

[Karthi]

UK,USA,France and Israel declined to share it with India, CSI O developed it for Tejas.

Head Up Display for LCA AF

 

[Karthi]

Head Up Display for LCA Navy

 

[Karthi]

Head Up Display for HJT 36

 

[Steven Rogers]

View attachment 45355


UK,USA,France and Israel declined to share it with India, CSI O developed it for Tejas.

Head Up Display for LCA AF

Im asking for the mk2 variant of the same which was under development...
This brochure found on CSIO Facebook post...

 

[Karthi]

Im asking for the mk2 variant of the same which was under development...
This brochure found on CSIO Facebook post...
View attachment 45358

Don't know about the status but they made progress in developing lite weight hud for mk2 probably it will go to Hawk trainer also

 

[Steven Rogers]

Don't know about the status but they made progress in developing lite weight hud for mk2 probably it will go to Hawk trainer also

Currently the ADA and HAL are using Lite HUD from BAE which is fairly new.....

 

[Hydra3]

Im asking for the mk2 variant of the same which was under development...
This brochure found on CSIO Facebook post...
View attachment 45358

Hi, is that HUD is conventional type or Holographic type HUD?