ADA Tejas Mark-II/Medium Weight Fighter

[G10]

Flight stability during firing a gun should be piece of cake then as the fighter is of light class. Go ahead have fun.

 

[vampyrbladez]

Flight stability during firing a gun should be piece of cake then as the fighter is of light class. Go ahead have fun.

MiG 21 Gun Pod

F 35B/C Gun Pod

MiG 23 (Internally Mounted)

Last scenario is probable of LCA Tejas albeit on centre right mount.

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2.

3.

Weight of GSh 23L - 50 Kg

Weight of (1) 23 x 115 mm API (Armor Piercing Incendiary Round) - 331 g

Total Weight Of Gun + 220 Rounds - 50 + 72.80 = 122.80 Kg

Position 8. in diagram (3) has 200 Kg tolerance so symmetric position as per centre of gravity must also have such tolerance referenced in diagram (1). Thus gun will have no problems if used in min. loaded configuration of plane.

BTW FOC test will be exclusive of final gun certification.

LCA-Tejas Mk1 Clears FOC ( Final Operational Clearance )

The year did end with a Bang for Team Tejas, On last working day of 2018, HAL officials officially realized Final Operational Clearance (FOC) build standard documents along with DRDO AG Aero to confirm that LCA-Tejas Mk1 fighter aircraft has achieved FOC, the final milestone of the long-running indigenous fighter program after considerable delays.


Official FOC ( Final Operational Clearance ) announcement or grant of final certification documents is likely to be announced on 4th of January 2019, so that it coincides with the date of the first flight of LCA-TD1 in 4th January 2001. FOC Certification has been granted with a minor exemption to the program. Internally mounted Russian origin 23 mm twin-barrel GSh-23 cannon with 220 rounds of ammunition has been allowed not to be part of FOC, which means LCA-Tejas Mk1 fleet will carry this gun, but will not be cleared to fire them till it is cleared by development test team in near future.


The GSh-23l gun which is manufactured by Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) has already cleared ground trial on the LSP-7 but is yet to be cleared for in-flight operations yet. In-flight Gun firing needs a lot of manhours for perfect calibrations and needs to be observed for gas ingestion into the air intakes, excessive vibrations on the airframe at different angles and altitudes and also look out for cracks under long usage, which according to industry experts close to idrw.org will require up to two years of dedicated In-flight Gun trials and data collection due to which IAF had given the Team Tejas the exemption for the FOC, so that the LCA-Tejas Mk1 clears FOC in time this year.


According to industry experts close to idrw.org, Clearing of In-flight Gun for operations always seems like an easy and simple procedure but it can throw up nasty surprises due to which proper dedicated team is required to prevent undue incidents due to which, IAF and Team Tejas will work closely with each other to slowly clear operations of the Gun in next few months.


83 LCA-Tejas Mk1A ordered by IAF is an upgraded aircraft with four major addition will not have to go through FOC certification again, but new additions in systems and components will need to be cleared which includes trials of its Israeli EL/M-2052 Active Electronically Scanning Array (AESA) Radar,ELL-8222WB (wide band) self-protection jamming pods, Cobham In-flight refueling probe, Easier Maintenance along with dead weight reduction.

idrw.org

http://idrw.org/lca-tejas-mk1-clears-foc-final-operational-clearance/ .

 

[tsunami]

Any news of announcement yet??

 

[happylion]

CEMILAC has made the announcement that it has approved FOC production.
Cemilac is the entty that gives FOC

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...-version-of-tejas-aircraft-1423348-2019-01-04

 

[Chinmoy]

Any news of announcement yet??

No announcement. FOC tests are pending, although design has been approved.

"The actual final operational clearance, however, will take place only after extensive tests and trial," the HAL spokesperson was quoted as saying by PTI.

To get the final operational clearance, the aircraft must have battle-time capabilities of mid-air refuelling, AESA radar, electronic warfare suites, a variety of bombs and weapons, among others, he said.

The CEMILAC had accepted the design documents submitted by Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), which had designed and developed Tejas, he added.

CEMILAC is a DRDO laboratory authorised to certify military aircraft and airborne systems.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Parrikar hold 83 meetings to bring the program on track. LCA Tejas MK1 + is the outcome of Parrikar's effort. Had parrikar not been there, Tejas would have ended with just 40 planes and closure of the program.

Please read 16 meeting to secure 83 additional plane order.

 

[happylion]

FOC tests are pending is an innacurate term. It has given clearance for production of this variant. Flight testing is a continuum for this Block version !! The media is trying to role it around in some manner or the toher. Basically the design for the next set is frozen. Any changes are only software etc improvements .

 

[Chinmoy]

FOC tests are pending is an innacurate term.

HAL Chief said so. So its not an inaccurate term. IAF would provide FOC. As of now CEMILAC has certified the model going for FOC to be air worthy.

 

[G10]

In-flight Gun firing needs a lot of manhours for perfect calibrations and needs to be observedfor gas ingestion into the air intakes, excessive vibrations on theairframe at different angles andaltitudes and also look out for cracks under long usage, which according to industry experts close to idrw.org willrequire up to two years of dedicated In-flight Gun trialsand datacollection
Hope there is no modification needed after such calibrations and test.

 

[bhramos]

ADA LCA does come into service but its memes sell like hotcakes.....

 

[Enquirer]

In-flight Gun firing needs a lot of manhours for perfect calibrations and needs to be observedfor gas ingestion into the air intakes, excessive vibrations on theairframe at different angles andaltitudes and also look out for cracks under long usage, which according to industry experts close to idrw.org willrequire up to two years of dedicated In-flight Gun trialsand datacollection
Hope there is no modification needed after such calibrations and test.

I keep reading this comment made by many fanboys that "gas ingestion into the air intakes" could be a problem etc.

How exactly is that a problem if the gun is actually located aft of (way behind) the air intakes??

It seems like someone made an uninformed speculation sometime back, and everyone keeps repeating that.

 

[Enquirer]

@Kunal Biswas

Time to open the ADA tejas thread to celebrate FOC atleast.

MODs, please,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Beause this thread is now being used for tejas mk1 discussion, better do it on the dedicated thread

Funny, how the guy solely responsible for the deactivation of the thread is making demands for reopening without so much as remorse for his own actions! And worse, continues with the same behavior on this thread too - making offensive and ignorant posts (which have been already deleted by the moderators).

This is precisely what's called 'goodagardhi'!

 

[happylion]

I think both Enquirer and Ersakthivel can take a break - stop derailing the thread please slug it out elsewhere.Its getting very boring

 

[Enquirer]

I think both Enquirer and Ersakthivel can take a break - stop derailing the thread please slug it out elsewhere.Its getting very boring

It's always funny to see the scum bubbling up only when I retort to the wanton abuses by ersakthivel. I never see you or susthi malik(eh?) display any self respect by objecting to ersakthivel spraying stench! Funny how your mind works!

 

[darshan978]

It's always funny to see the scum bubbling up only when I retort to the wanton abuses by ersakthivel. I never see you or susthi malik(eh?) display any self respect by objecting to ersakthivel spraying stench! Funny how your mind works!

Rather than blaming everyone why dont you look insight? Falseflagger

 

[happylion]

I am least interested in both of you. I don't even know who you people are but all I know is this nonsense pops up regularly in these threads from both of you.What I am interested is in the thread not getting derailed.You are the one repeatedly raking things up.If you cannot have a civil conversation with the other person stop replying to him and derailing the thread and Yes it applies to both of you. Its not a school fight going on here to prove who is right and wrong. Its advisable for both to stop if you cannot be civil to each other.

 

[Enquirer]

Rather than blaming everyone why dont you look insight? Falseflagger

Here's comes the epitome of the kind I referred to earlier!
btw the word is 'inside' not 'insight'

 

[Enquirer]

I am least interested in both of you. I don't even know who you people are but all I know is this nonsense pops up regularly in these threads from both of you.What I am interested is in the thread not getting derailed.You are the one repeatedly raking things up.If you cannot have a civil conversation with the other person stop replying to him and derailing the thread and Yes it applies to both of you. Its not a school fight going on here to prove who is right and wrong. Its advisable for both to stop if you cannot be civil to each other.

Your ignorance is your problem. No need to act cute by half.
Few days ago, the scum ersakthivel came out of the wood works and lashed out at me for no reason at all. None of the now bubbling scum ever complained why he's spewing stench in this new thread. When I complained, every other scumbag started attacking me (just like they did few months back, and doing again now).
Even today, I was pointing out the irony that this 'poriki' ersakthivel continues to spew stench on this new thread, unprovoked; and somehow has the gall to 'demand' something while overlooking his past misdeeds that actually caused the other thread to be shut down!
Take your servitude to ersakthivel elsewhere and leave this forum to rational conversations! No need to pimp for ersakthivel!!!

 

[happylion]

I will not feed your trolling but what you have written just proves my point. Thank You.

 

[vampyrbladez]

@Virendra @Dovah Sirs, you presence is required for a decontamination mission.