ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Rahul Singh]

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Tejas Gets Ready For IOC

http://chhindits.blogspot.com/2010/12/tejas-gets-ready-for-ioc.html

Suman Sharma is one DDM(BR copyright) queen.

* LCA first flew on 4th January 2001, so its almost 10 years not 7 years.
* LCA as per latest report has completed 1500 test flights not 873 flights.

 

[chex3009]

All I would say is that Pakistanis are capable of proving just anything. why are we wasting so much of money on proving advance mathematics and physics theorems. Give it to Pakistanis and they can prove it in a second.

They are even getting nastier, they are comparing Su-30MKI with JF-17 and proving that the JF-17 is actually 5-7 seconds quicker than the Su-30MKI in a high G Turn. What about that???

 

[SHASH2K2]

They are even getting nastier, they are comparing Su-30MKI with JF-17 and proving that the JF-17 is actually 5-7 seconds quicker than the Su-30MKI in a high G Turn. What about that???

I would say impossible is nothing for Pakistanis. They need something to fool people there that they can match India and infact their planes are better then Indians.

 

[Rahul Singh]

This the the video comparing LCA Tejas and JF-17 in rebuttal to one of the videos created by the member of Bharat Rakshak, I got this video on PakDef.

They are even getting nastier, they are comparing Su-30MKI with JF-17 and proving that the JF-17 is actually 5-7 seconds quicker than the Su-30MKI in a high G Turn. What about that???

Chex, playing with video is not at all hard. Check that video again when they compare 360* roll. If you closely watch the video of JF-17 you will feel video is at 1.5X playing speed. Now see the turn rate comparison: Where did the LCA went out of sky between 1:01 to 1:06? How stupid of this scum video maker that before freezing the video and deleting the LCA of the screen he did not picked that at 0:59 LCA is already at 75% of the turn. Do note that LCA started from farther point than JF-17.

On comparing JF-17 with MKI: To sum up, all i will say, what less you expect for these genius who in past have proved Goat=Horse!:happy_2:

 

[RPK]

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[Crusader53]

Any word on when the first LCA MK2 equipped with the F414 will fly??? Wonder if the F414 will be the standard model or the much more powerful EDE Version???

 

[baagh]

Awaiting the IOC for Tejas with bated breath. When is the first plane going to be inducted in IAF?

 

[maomao]

Awaiting the IOC for Tejas with bated breath. When is the first plane going to be inducted in IAF?

Mr. Baagh, IOC is probably this month and FOC will be somewhere mid next year!!

 

[Rahul Singh]

Any word on when the first LCA MK2 equipped with the F414 will fly??? Wonder if the F414 will be the standard model or the much more powerful EDE Version???

It is very much possible but it largely depends on the scale of modification it will require on LCA MK-2 as well as status of the the EDE version by the time deal is signed. I remember GE representative saying something like "as technology progresses we offer improved solutions to our customers". Since he was talking in relation to LCA MK-2 engine, i guess he was referring to F-414EDE.

 

[Crusader53]

It is very much possible but it largely depends on the scale of modification it will require on LCA MK-2 as well as status of the the EDE version by the time deal is signed. I remember GE representative saying something like "as technology progresses we offer improved solutions to our customers". Since he was talking in relation to LCA MK-2 engine, i guess he was referring to F-414EDE.

Well, the F/A-18IN is to be equipped with the F414 EDE. So, that would make sense. Just think the power of an Late Block F-16 in the small LCA. Man that is going to be one "HOT" little bird!

 

[gogbot]

Any word on when the first LCA MK2 equipped with the F414 will fly??? Wonder if the F414 will be the standard model or the much more powerful EDE Version???

Don't hold your breath.

3-4 years before they have the initial version ready to fly.

 

[Anshu Attri]

Tejas Clears All Low-level Flight Test Points

http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/12/tejas-clears-low-level-flight-test.html

Word just in that the LCA Tejas has completed all test points for low-level flight off the coast of Goa towards initial operational clearance. The first flight of the LCA Navy is expected soon. More details when they're in.

 

[RPK]

Tejas: From a flying machine to fighter aircraft - India - DNA


A quest which started in 2001 is about to end: Tejas, India's indigenous light combat aircraft (LCA), completed its final lap to transform into a full-fledged combat aircraft—in Bangalore on Wednesday.

After its first flight on January 4, 2001, Tejas had successfully completed 1,452 test flights, with the last one here, where it undertook air-to-ground weapon and drop tank jettison trials. Now, it is awaiting an Initial Operational Clearance (IOC)—which is likely to be given on December 27.

It all took just 20 minutes: A Tejas PV-2 aircraft took off from the Bangalore-based Aeronautical Development Agency and the National Flight Test Centre, where the LCA programme was born and brought up, hit the bulls-eye at the aeronautical test range facility in Kudapura Kaval near Chitradurga and returned to the Bangalore base.

Gp Capt (retd) RR Tyagi piloted the final test sortie and its was a huge success, said a DRDO official. Tejas can fly only for 45 minutes.

The Chitradurga facility will also serve as a test range for the unmanned air vehicles (UAVs) and the unmanned combat air vehicles (UCAVs) when it becomes fully operational in 2011.

 

[RPK]

Tejas Flight Trials Activate Chitradurga Air-to-Ground Range

http://frontierindia.net/tejas-flight-trials-activate-chitradurga-air-to-ground-range

The Chitradurga range became activated today with the bomb dropping trails from LCA Tejas. Consequent to operationalisation of Bangalore International Airport (BIA), Air-to-ground range at Kolar was deactivated, as it was coming in the traffic path of the BIA. Accordingly, the Karnataka state government had allocated suitable land at Chellakere near Chitradurga to set-up a full-fledged Aeronautical Test Range (ATR), for use by all the aeronautical system developers in the country.

While work is going on to set-up the facility under the guidance of Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE), National Flight Test Centre (NFTC), ADA, took the initiative to activate the air-to-ground range for the ongoing air-to-ground weapon and drop tank jettison trials of Tejas, the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft.

"Thus, the Chellakere DRDO Test Range became operational with the first ever bomb testing experiments of LCA, though the total infrastructure and other logistic facilities are yet to be completed while the financial support is also in full form is awaited. With this back ground, this facility has reached a new height by carrying out the experiments of LCA" said Dr Prahlada the Chief Controller - DRDO. He opined that this successful tests conducted today also signifies a major milestone in the field of aeronautical developments in the country which is of a proud moment for the entire scientific community.

Other than LCA tests, this facility will also be used for various tests of UAV flights and electronic warfare systems in the days to come.

Shri PS Subramanyam, Programme Director (CA) & Director, ADA said that on December 15, 2010, Tejas PV-2 aircraft piloted by Gp Capt (Retd) RR Tyagi dropped practice bombs on the target. Thus NFTC, ADA became the first to use the facility for weapon testing on Tejas. For this purpose, air-to-ground target and Range Safety Officer (RSO) bunkers were constructed at the range site. NFTC mobile telemetry with Test Director and critical system monitoring personnel were also positioned at the test range. The mobile telemetry was linked to the base station Bangalore, through BSNL fiber optic link to monitor the test aircraft data and video in real-time. Availability of the range at a reasonable distance from Bangalore is expected to have a beneficial effect on clearance to air-to-ground weapon, integrated with various sensors onboard Tejas.

The activation of air-to-ground range at Chitradurga built and operated by NFTC, ADA was made possible with the active support and assistance from the local authorities, Deputy Commissioner Amlan Aditya Biswas, IAS and Superintendent of Police, Labhu Ram, IPS.

 

[Parthy]

Air-to-Ground Range activated for Tejas flight trials: DRDO

The Challakere DRDO Test Range in Karnataka became operational Wednesday with the first ever bomb testing experiments of Light Combat Aircraft Tejas, though the total infrastructure
and other logistic facilities are yet to be completed.

The financial support in full form is also awaited for the Range.

Dr Prahlada, the Chief Controller, DRDO, said, "The successful test also signifies a major milestone in the field of aeronautical developments in the country which is a proud moment for the entire scientific community".

Other than LCA tests, this facility would also be used for various tests of UAV flights and electronic warfare systems.

P S Subramanyam, Programme Director (CA) and Director, Aeronautical Development Agency, said Tejas PV-2 aircraft piloted by Gp Capt (Retd) R R Tyagi dropped practice bombs on the target.

Thus NFTC, ADA became the first to use the facility for weapon testing on Tejas. For this purpose, air-to-ground target and Range Safety Officer (RSO) bunkers were constructed at the range site. NFTC mobile telemetry with Test Director and critical system monitoring personnel were also positioned at the test range.

The mobile telemetry was linked to the base station Bangalore, through BSNL fiber optic link to monitor the test aircraft data and video in real-time.

"Availability of the range at a reasonable distance from Bangalore is expected to have a beneficial effect on clearance to air-to-ground weapon, integrated with various sensors onboard Tejas," DRDO said in a statement.

It was noted that consequent to operationalisation of Bangalore International Airport (BIA), Air-to-ground range at Kolar was deactivated, as it was coming in the traffic path of the BIA.

Accordingly, the Karnataka state government had allocated suitable land at Chellakere near Chitradurga to set-up a full-fledged Aeronautical Test Range (ATR), for use by all the aeronautical system developers in the country.

While work is going on to set-up the facility under the guidance of Aeronautical Development Establishment (ADE), National Flight Test Centre (NFTC), ADA, took the initiative to activate the air-to-ground range for the ongoing air-to-ground weapon and drop tank jettison trials of Tejas, the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft.




http://www.brahmand.com/news/Air-to-Ground-Range-activated-for-Tejas-flight-trials-DRDO/5816/1/10.html

 

[Rahul Singh]

Tejas PV-2 aircraft piloted by Gp Capt (Retd) RR Tyagi dropped practice bombs on the target.

Retired and still test flying! Well, HAL is sure to grab him for FGFA flight testing. With Gp Cpt Unikrishnan and LCH, HAL has already started new trend where prototypes will be tested by design bureau test pilots and service pilots will fly only for user trials.

 

[ppgj]

Positively yes. However interesting thing is that LCA's present MMR has some amount of EL-2032 inside and in past HAL has integrated both 'R-77' and 'Derby' with EL-2032 of Mig-21BISs and LUSH Sea Harriers respectively so i don't expect any problems arising. However entire avionics architecture, core computer and mission computer of LCA is different and new and can take some time considering some unexpected problems arises.

Rahul

as to the bolded part, i guess it is a typo.

AFAIK Mig 21's (Bisons) are equipped with the russian "KOPYO" radar. as to SH you are right.

 

[Rahul Singh]

Tejas: From a flying machine to fighter aircraft - India - DNA
*Tejas had successfully completed 1,452 test flights, with the last one here, where it undertook air-to-ground weapon and drop tank jettison trials. Now, it is awaiting an Initial Operational Clearance (IOC)—which is likely to be given on December 27.

*Tejas can fly only for 45 minutes.

$ HF-XX Tejas completed 1500 test flight when Sunit Krishnan landed back at ADA/HAL test centre after completing their share of sea trials at Goa. Add to this rest of flight test at Goa and their flight back, not counting this bombing trials and preparatory flight trials. Presently total test sorties clocked by LCA should be anywhere above 1510 and total hours flown close to 1000.

$ On internal fuel only while in lo-lo-lo mission profile with close to maximum combat load.

 

[Rahul Singh]

Well, the F/A-18IN is to be equipped with the F414 EDE. So, that would make sense. Just think the power of an Late Block F-16 in the small LCA. Man that is going to be one "HOT" little bird!

EDE is just a program, it offers multiple options but with trade off. Want thrust give away option to increase life and vice versa. I don't know what USN will choose but if offered ADA might choose life over addition thrust if reports regarding developing LCA into full fledge M-MRCA is not true but if it id true then surely they will go for more thrust. Currently there is no specific information available about F414-GE-INS6 on GE website but on flight International some interest information is available.

"The F414-INS6 is the highest-thrust F414 model................." GE says.

 

[thecoolone]

Pakistan news agency "The Daily News" again taking shots at Indian defense programs and scoffing at "LCA Tejas".

Indian indigenous Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas is already obsolete, even before its induction. India may be dreaming of becoming a world power and definitely behaving like a bully on the block but it has to traverse a long way before it can become one.

Being an Indian even though it hurts, but the question lingers, do you guys think LCA will be able to reach or surpass Gripen in terms of capabilities as a fighter jet?

http://dailymailnews.com/1210/15/Editorial_Column/DMEditorial.php