ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Prashant12]

Some interesting infos in addition to that

Also an interesting point about the use of IOC versions, wonder if FOC version were used or not and if BVR missiles were tested?

LCA, Tejas, produced by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), flying from Phalodi (Jodhpur), had 100 per cent serviceability. “All eight Tejas were available due to very good logistics support by HAL,” said Air Chief Marshall Dhanoa.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/iaf-set-for-himalaya-drill-off-malacca/575129.html

 

[Sancho]

LCA, Tejas, produced by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), flying from Phalodi (Jodhpur), had 100 per cent serviceability. “All eight Tejas were available due to very good logistics support by HAL,” said Air Chief Marshall Dhanoa.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/iaf-set-for-himalaya-drill-off-malacca/575129.html

Yes all 8 were "available", but not all 8 were used and from the once that were used, it seems that we had 65% "serviceability".

 

[Kshithij]

Yes all 8 were "available", but not all 8 were used and from the once that were used, it seems that we had 65% "serviceability".

Do you even understand how the serviceability works? Tejas is a new plane and there is no need for overhaul of extensive repairs yet. Serviceability is managed in such a manner that the workers are given regular employment and the servicing schedule is managed in such a manner as to make the workload even across seasons.

Rarely do serviceability have to do with poor manufacturing quality. Delays. if any are only caused by lack of spare parts or the old age related problems

 

[AMCA]

Yes all 8 were "available", but not all 8 were used and from the once that were used, it seems that we had 65% "serviceability".

Servicibility was 75%. 6 out of 8 Tejas aircrafts were operational. Each aircraft carried out 6 sorties daily which means 432 sorties in entire excercise.



https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/ind...dle-nuke-warfare-during-mega-exercise-1842255
Indian Air Force Tests Capability To Handle Nuke Warfare During Mega Exercise
A major focus of the exercise was to check combat capability of the indigenously developed Light Combat Aircraft or LCA Tejas and their performance was satisfactory, IAF sources said.

They said eight Tejas were deployed during the exercise and some of these had reported minor technical issues, adding each of the six Tejas had flown six sorties daily like any other platforms including Sukhoi, Mirage 2000 and MiG 29 jets.

 

[G10]

How is serviceability calculated? Can it be calculated for 15-20 days?
Before somebody says try google i tried it. I get availability but not this.

 

[Prashant12]

LCA Tejas has capability to engage hostile fighter jets: IAF


New Delhi, Apr 24 (UNI) The Indian Air Force (IAF) on Tuesday said that the home-made Light Combat Aircraft (LAC) Tejas have performed well in the recently concluded 14-day ‘Gaganshakti’ exercise and also have ability to intercept and engage hostile fighter jets.

“We have done trials and validation of operational efficiency of LCA Tejas. We were able to generate six sorties per platform per day. In this exercise, we had deployed eight platforms,” said an IAF official who was associated with this exercise.

The exercise was started on April 8 and concluded on April 21. On the first day, six of Tejas jets reported “snag” which were of different kind. “But we were able to get those rectified soon,” said the official.

Satisfied by its performance, the sources said, “We are happy with the Tejas. We are looking for fast production and also induction into the force.

The Tejas LCA is a supersonic, single-seat, single-engine multirole light fighter jet that has been under development since 1983 by India’s Aeronautical Development Agency state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

15 additional Tejas LCA are expected to be produced in 2018.

The ninth IAF Tejas LCA completed its maiden flight in March.

On 1 July 2016, the LCA Tejas was inducted into the Squadron No 45 of the IAF and has been designed to replace the MiG-21 aircraft.

The IAF conducted a massive show of strength for the first time in last three decades with focus on key areas like aerial combat, air to surface combat, paratrooper assault and medical evacuation.

It was more a real war like situation where the IAF can get ready and reach from Western sector to Northern sector within 48 hours.

On being asked about two-front war like situation, the sources said, “We have tried to maximize what we have. We have to fight with what we have.”

In this exercise, 1400 officers and 14000 men participated. A total of 11000 sorties were flown out of which 9000 were conducted by fighter jets in the pan-India peacetime air operations.

http://www.uniindia.com/~/lca-tejas...tile-fighter-jets-iaf/India/news/1209834.html

 

[Prashant12]

India-made Tejas proves its mettle in IAF’s biggest combat exercise


Notwithstanding few snags they developed during Indian Air Force (IAF) combat exercise Gagan Shakti, a fleet of eight indigenous Tejas Light Combat Aircraft convinced the top brass of the IAF that the homemade combat jet is ready for operation.

Tejas LCA undertook 6 sorties a day. Each mission, lasting for 45 minutes on the lower side to one and half hours, proved the indigenous fighter jet's efficiency in an operational role.

There were technical snags, but none were repetitive in nature. “These were routine glitches. The turnaround time was less than six hours during the exercise. It can't be said these are nagging problems. LCA is a capable aircraft for ground attack,” said an officer.

Besides checking the efficacy and integration of LCA and Aakash air defence missile system, IAF used its biggest war game also to examine the capabilities of upgraded Mirage-2000 and MiG-29 in an operational environment.

During the two-week-long Gaganshakti exercise – the largest buildup of Indian military since Operation Brasstacks in the 1980s, IAF flew 11,000 sorties in two days simulating destruction of enemy targets not only near China and Pakistan borders but also in the high seas. As many as 9,000 sorties were by the fighter aircraft.

A team of 300 experts now analyse different aspects of the massive war game and a report is expected within a week. It took almost nine months for the IAF to prepare for the exercise during which IAF achieved 80% serviceability with its aircraft and 97% with the missiles, some of them are 40 years old system.

The pan-Indian drill was meant to test the IAF's ability to fight in a two-front war scenario. But in reality, it became a sequential exercise rather than a simultaneous one. The men and machines were first tested in the western front and subsequently switched to the eastern front within 48 hours for operations close to the Sino-Indian border.

Also, there was a maritime component as deep strike jets flew over the Indian Ocean to hit at decoy targets set by the Indian Navy. “This is as real as one can get. In an actual war, we take calculated risk, but this was a peacetime exercise,” said an officer.

The impact of the drill was felt across the border. China employed two of its airborne radar systems to keep an eye on the Indian exercise.

“In recent days, India has issued the largest air-to-air manoeuvres in the history of the country. The total number of participating aircraft has reached 1,100! Such large-scale air exercises are currently difficult for other countries except for the United States. If India really has more than 1,100 planes involved in the drill, China and Russia must look at India differently,” says a report (English translation) in one of China's state-controlled media named zhaizou.com.

https://www.deccanherald.com/nation...tle-iaf’s-biggest-combat-exercise-666437.html

 

[Steven Rogers]

LCA Tejas has capability to engage hostile fighter jets: IAF


New Delhi, Apr 24 (UNI) The Indian Air Force (IAF) on Tuesday said that the home-made Light Combat Aircraft (LAC) Tejas have performed well in the recently concluded 14-day ‘Gaganshakti’ exercise and also have ability to intercept and engage hostile fighter jets.

“We have done trials and validation of operational efficiency of LCA Tejas. We were able to generate six sorties per platform per day. In this exercise, we had deployed eight platforms,” said an IAF official who was associated with this exercise.

The exercise was started on April 8 and concluded on April 21. On the first day, six of Tejas jets reported “snag” which were of different kind. “But we were able to get those rectified soon,” said the official.

Satisfied by its performance, the sources said, “We are happy with the Tejas. We are looking for fast production and also induction into the force.

The Tejas LCA is a supersonic, single-seat, single-engine multirole light fighter jet that has been under development since 1983 by India’s Aeronautical Development Agency state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

15 additional Tejas LCA are expected to be produced in 2018.

The ninth IAF Tejas LCA completed its maiden flight in March.

On 1 July 2016, the LCA Tejas was inducted into the Squadron No 45 of the IAF and has been designed to replace the MiG-21 aircraft.

The IAF conducted a massive show of strength for the first time in last three decades with focus on key areas like aerial combat, air to surface combat, paratrooper assault and medical evacuation.

It was more a real war like situation where the IAF can get ready and reach from Western sector to Northern sector within 48 hours.

On being asked about two-front war like situation, the sources said, “We have tried to maximize what we have. We have to fight with what we have.”

In this exercise, 1400 officers and 14000 men participated. A total of 11000 sorties were flown out of which 9000 were conducted by fighter jets in the pan-India peacetime air operations.

http://www.uniindia.com/~/lca-tejas...tile-fighter-jets-iaf/India/news/1209834.html

Benefit of the complete digital aircraft, none of snags repeated themselves again.

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[AMCA]

LCA Simulator ............................................................

 

[zebra7]

Yes all 8 were "available", but not all 8 were used and from the once that were used, it seems that we had 65% "serviceability".

HE HE ...........
Tejas, a newly inducted fighter jet gets technical snags, and that was retified within 12 hours by HAL and that too in the forward operational base a long distance from its home base and Bangalore. And this news attracts you more than anything, like the participation of the Tejas in such a big, multi assets, network environment exercise. You have become blind in Gripen love.

 

[darshan978]

Some interesting infos in addition to that

Also an interesting point about the use of IOC versions, wonder if FOC version were used or not and if BVR missiles were tested?

Good job so you ignored every good post about tejas and used only post which show snags in tejas woaah nice try buddy keep trying you are only for that here
One word for ya - DALAAL

 

[darshan978]

His

HE HE ...........
Tejas, a newly inducted fighter jet gets technical snags, and that was retified within 12 hours by HAL and that too in the forward operational base a long distance from its home base and Bangalore. And this news attracts you more than anything, like the participation of the Tejas in such a big, multi assets, network environment exercise. You have become blind in Gripen love.

His as* is burning right now!!!

 

[Enquirer]

HE HE ...........
Tejas, a newly inducted fighter jet gets technical snags, and that was retified within 12 hours by HAL and that too in the forward operational base a long distance from its home base and Bangalore. And this news attracts you more than anything, like the participation of the Tejas in such a big, multi assets, network environment exercise. You have become blind in Gripen love.

@Sancho
Also we need to remember that these are Tejas "Mk1" which IAF had earlier rejected because of poor maintainability (inaccessible service areas etc) ! If these aircraft can do 6 sorties a day in war like conditions - then there's definitely something wrong in IAF's earlier assessement! If IAF was right then Mk1A will probably do 12 sorties a day

 

[patriots]

ya and the so called journalist has been banned across the board by iaf for spreading lies ....
and one thing why people are obsessed with ioc variant.....it's our own tejas ....we will upgrade this to mk1a variant .... within 2..to 3 years

 

[Steven Rogers]

Wow @Sancho but IAF praised Tejas for its interception capabilities.

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[patriots]

Wow @Sancho but IAF praised Tejas for its interception capabilities.

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both per interception and ground attack

means a good multirole.....jet ........

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[Sancho]

And this news attracts you more than anything, like the participation of the Tejas in such a big, multi assets, network environment exercise.

Not really, I posted info's that were not about the snag, but that only parts of the 8 LCAs participated in the exercise and especially only the IOC versions!
That means, that FOC versions that are meant to add IFR and A2A capability were not shown during the ecerise (if the report is to be belived). So contrary to your biased and pointless claims (that I regularly trashed on IDF too), it shows that I am interested in real infos about Tejas , not just the imaginary feel good stuff some pepole spread.

 

[Sancho]

Good job so you ignored every good post about tejas and used only post which show snags in tejas woaah nice try buddy keep trying you are only for that here
One word for ya - DALAAL

Lol another one. At least read what I wrote to understand what I am talking about, before you get to such nonsense conclusions, because you have no other points.

Also an interesting point about the use of IOC versions, wonder if FOC version were used or not and if BVR missiles were tested?

Where did I said something about the snag? I replied to a post of another member and added new infos!!!

 

[Sancho]

@Sancho
Also we need to remember that these are Tejas "Mk1" which IAF had earlier rejected because of poor maintainability (inaccessible service areas etc) ! If these aircraft can do 6 sorties a day in war like conditions - then there's definitely something wrong in IAF's earlier assessement! If IAF was right then Mk1A will probably do 12 sorties a day

They never were rejected because of maintainability, the MK1A modernisation improves maintainability, just as radar and EW, which is a standard upgrade for a fighter after 10 to 15 years, since capabilities improve in such a time frame.

The problem for IAF is lack of A2A capability and flight performance, which are critical to replace Mig 21s. But LCA needs FOC to provide basic A2A capability and needs the MK2 to get the required flight performance. That's why larger orders were not provided and why IOC is a single role fighter so far:

There were technical snags, but none were repetitive in nature. “These were routine glitches. The turnaround time was less than six hours during the exercise. It can't be said these are nagging problems. LCA is a capable aircraft for ground attack,” said an officer.

 

[Sancho]

Wow @Sancho but IAF praised Tejas for its interception capabilities.

It doesn't have speed and manuverability, which is why IAF a decade ago found that the MK2 is the only way to get it to meet the ASR.
Derby, Python V and the gun are still not fully integrated, which is part of pending FOC.

So what interception capabilities? That's why I keep saying, that FOC is the key to get Tejas to the minimum capability, to make it useful for IAF as a multi role fighter and that MK2 will finally bring it to the level that was asked for, just that it will be decades too late.