ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Prashant12]

With #Tejas SP8 out flying now, HAL hopes to have SP9 too ready to join the flying duties before the close of this FY, if all goes well.

 

[dumdumdum]

#Tejas SP-8 completes maiden flight successfully.

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Anantha Krishnan M‏@writetake 4m4 minutes ago

With #Tejas SP8 out flying now, HAL hopes to have SP9 too ready to join the flying duties before the close of this FY, if all goes well.

With SP5 out of the way , seems we will get to a faster/more predictable delivery rate

 

[darshan978]

how many tejas produced in the fy 17-18 i.e 1stapril 2017 to 31march 2018 i guess till sp 12 tejas is in hangers??

 

[abingdonboy]

how many tejas produced in the fy 17-18 i.e 1stapril 2017 to 31march 2018 i guess till sp 12 tejas is in hangers??

5-6 (depending on if SP9 comes in time), SP-5 bottleneck cost 2-3 months of production but that’s been addressed now. Next FY 12 SPs will be produced

 

[Sancho]

True. One scientist had said last year that they were going to focus on Aerodynamics them onward. Many including saraswat and others had said that aerodynamic improvement has a scope in Mk1+ itself.

Don't take anything Saraswat said, as credible.

But yes, there will be design improvement, since we keep learning in this field. The sad part is only the slow pace and that people like Saraswat are counterproductive for the LCA programme, with their unrealistic dreams about it.
If we keep the programme and the focus simple and on a steady learning curve, we will succeed. But sadly people are too hyped up and over ambitious to make more out of the fighter and the programme, than it can deliver.

 

[Sancho]

If above table is true that it it is very disappointing. No weight reduction is seen from LSP1 to LSP8. it is very bad. We should have achieved atleast 6 tons by now.

From the CAG report 2015, based on HAL stats, but yes disappointing. And since the LSP 8 is the base for FOC changes => which again is the base for MK1A, there is hardly any weight or performance improvement to expect.

 

[Steven Rogers]

Don't take anything Saraswat said, as credible.

But yes, there will be design improvement, since we keep learning in this field. The sad part is only the slow pace and that people like Saraswat are counterproductive for the LCA programme, with their unrealistic dreams about it.
If we keep the programme and the focus simple and on a steady learning curve, we will succeed. But sadly people are too hyped up and over ambitious to make more out of the fighter and the programme, than it can deliver.

VK SARSWAT was former drdo chief, and current niti ayoug member, don't take him seriously then take seriously a member of dfi who continues to bash even without any ground with "no experience " of real world scenario . And what unrealistic dream you're talking about, the missed opportunities aren't unrealistic dream, he never said LCA to carry payload for 1500kms combat radius, or asked the scientists to make LCA comparable to Su30mki in performance. And what simple things you're talking about, in Rnd their isn't any simple thing, it has to pass through a process of rigorous effort and test whether it is smallest part of the project before it is certified for operations.

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[Steven Rogers]

From the CAG report 2015, based on HAL stats, but yes disappointing. And since the LSP 8 is the base for FOC changes => which again is the base for MK1A, there is hardly any weight or performance improvement to expect.

Any credible data, which says about the weight of the fighters entering the Indian Air force.

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[Sancho]

And what unrealistic dream you're talking about

When you don't know more about him, than his title, at least do a Google search before you comment:

2012:

Dr. V.K Saraswat, presently the Scientific Advisor to India's Defence Minister, delivered a keynote address at the recently held Aerospace Forum in Sweden that concluded on the 3rd of June, this year. Titled, 'Vision for India’s Future Aerospace and Defence', he spoke of some of big ticket Aerospace development projects currently underway or are to commence shortly.

Among these would be a programme to integrate technologies developed as part of India's Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft [AMCA] programme into the Light Combat Aircraft [LCA], Tejas. This variant would be identified as Mark III.

"Many of these technologies could also find their way into the Light Combat Aircraft Mk. 3 that is to be more stealthy than the current Mk. 2 version, which is due to fly in the next two years with the General Electric F414 engine and be ready for operational trials in 2016. The Mk. 3 is to have up to 70% composite content, almost double the current version's level, and could be powered by India's Kaveri turbofan, if that troubled program gets back on track."

Considering this aircraft was not developed from the outset to be stealthy, the final outcome of this particular venture would, therefore, be more of having improved the aircraft to exhibit greater reduction in its Radar Cross-Section [RCS] than its previous iterations [Mk. I & II]. Having a small-sized airframe [smallest for its class], inherently gives it a fair degree of that advantage even now. Add to it reduced metallic surfaces by replacing it with increased composites, and you should have a fine aircraft whose chances of detection on the radar would be that much closer to those aircraft, bigger in size, that are touted as truly stealth fighters. For an aircraft that is not to be the frontline fighter of the Indian Air Force, this development should be a welcome gain.

http://www.aame.in/2012/06/stealth-version-of-india-light-combat.html?m=1

 

[Steven Rogers]

When you don't know more about him, than his title, at least do a Google search before you comment:

2012:

http://www.aame.in/2012/06/stealth-version-of-india-light-combat.html?m=1

What shit is this???lca mk3, imagination shit. Apart from stealth design, everything he commented is based on MK2. And stealth LCA was an idea of that time. I'm he made timelines related to mk2 but not that fantasy.

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[Steven Rogers]

But still it's him who attend the seminars of various universities and Scientist's seminars at Aero India, one need to ask him for that remark, rather considering him a jock.

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[Sancho]

What shit is this???lca mk3, imagination shit.

Now you might understand, why I said not to take him seriously!

 

[Sancho]

But still it's him who attend the seminars of various universities and Scientist's seminars at Aero India, one need to ask him for that remark, rather considering him a jock.

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Donald Trump had his own university, doesn't mean he knows...

 

[Steven Rogers]

Donald Trump had his own university, doesn't mean he knows...

Sorry I have seen various videos of him from Aero India Def expo and others where he himself delivered speech for half an hour and it wasn't like this fantasy. Need opinions of other members.

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[pankaj nema]

LCA Tejas SP-8 successfully completes first flight

http://idrw.org/lca-tejas-sp-8-successfully-completes-first-flight/

 

[Sancho]

Sorry I have seen various videos of him from Aero India Def expo and others where he himself delivered speech for half an hour and it wasn't like this fantasy. Need opinions of other members.

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Making speeches doesn't make him a good chief of DRDO, let alone useful for the LCA programme and DRDO developments involved in it. He liked to brag in front of the media and make big claims, but that didn't helped Tejas at all, since the expectations went up, while more and more promises were broken.
Next time inform yourself or ask around before attacking others.

 

[Babloo Singh]

Here is images of actual SP-8 in it's maiden flight & after it landed back.

Is it me or any one else also thinks that this boy looks slimmer in these images ?

 

[Trinetra]

Here is images of actual SP-8 in it's maiden flight & after it landed back.

Is it me or any one else also thinks that this boy looks slimmer in these images ?

For me it looks more stealthier and aggressive. but its just camera work.. nothing else.. Glad to see one by one fighters are out for service..

 

[Doc Mozart]

Oh man i so badly want this baby to go up against the Singaporean's F16's someday, during friendly training exercises. Would give a lot of insights into the advantages of our bird and the improvements needed. Just being hopeful honestly. :biggrin2:

 

[Flame Thrower]

Oh man i so badly want this baby to go up against the Singaporean's F16's someday, during friendly training exercises. Would give a lot of insights into the advantages of our bird and the improvements needed. Just being hopeful honestly. :biggrin2:

Call me crazy..


In 2019 UK's EFs will come to India for Indradhanush exercise.

I want LCA to take part in that exercise. I'd love to see LCA going against one of the Top dogs of Europe