ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Kunal Biswas]

#IADN Team Members wishes each and every followers a Merry Christmas! Original image credits : Tejas.gov.in & @deb_rana

 

[Shashwat]

So if it was written, why were you under the impression that MK2 development is easier, although it includes a complete redesign of the airframe?

It's not enough to be an LCA fan, you also have to understand the issues to know why things take longer, or why things are done in the programme the way they are. Ignoring facts (and that's all I provided, without any reference to other fighters or programmes), just because you don't like it, doesn't help Tejas.

Its not a redesign of the wing. A redesign will mean almost a new plane with new CLAW and FBW. What they are adding is a plug and some tweaks here and there for drag reduction.

You can check @Kunal Biswas post for the changes they are having.

Most of the changes are under the hood like integrated RWR, avionics and what not. The detailed design will be done by 2018-19 and only after that we will get a clear image as to whats going into it.

BTW some recent flight for the month of Dec -

LSP3 had 6 flights - This is with the gun right?
LSP4/7 is for?
LSP8 didn't had ant flight which is strange given its the one fitted with IFR probe.


I wish Mk2 changes to a boom for fuel refueling, this will save some piping and remove the probe. Boom allows for faster refueling granted IAF in the fray for fancy new MRTT and both AIrbus/Boeing has boom integrated.

 

[tejas warrior]

Its not a redesign of the wing. A redesign will mean almost a new plane with new CLAW and FBW. What they are adding is a plug and some tweaks here and there for drag reduction.

You can check @Kunal Biswas post for the changes they are having.

Most of the changes are under the hood like integrated RWR, avionics and what not. The detailed design will be done by 2018-19 and only after that we will get a clear image as to whats going into it.

BTW some recent flight for the month of Dec -

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LSP3 had 6 flights - This is with the gun right?
LSP4/7 is for?
LSP8 didn't had ant flight which is strange given its the one fitted with IFR probe.


I wish Mk2 changes to a boom for fuel refueling, this will save some piping and remove the probe. Boom allows for faster refueling granted IAF in the fray for fancy new MRTT and both AIrbus/Boeing has boom integrated.

LSP7 should be used for GUN firing test along with other tests.

LSP3/4/5 - Weapons/Missiles/Radars/Loads/DropTanks/Flight Envelope etc

LSP8 - Air to Air refueling.

*All the SP handed over to Squadron 45 Of IAF, have GUN integrated, but it's just not certified and hence are not being used.

A decent quality video of Gun firing on Ground.

 

[tejas warrior]

#TeamTejas wishes everyone a Very Happy New Year!

2018 will bring in new aircrafts, more interviews and videos of India's Light Combat Aircraft #Tejas!

Moments of Encouragement from the #PM, #IAF, #DRDO, #HAL, #ADA:
"Induction of indigenously made Tejas fighter jet into the Air Force fills our hearts with unparalleled pride and happiness"
Mr. Narendra Modi, Prime Minister

"The Tejas Squadron would gain strength in the months ahead. We have an exciting future. We are happy that Tejas has finally joined us."
Air Marshal Rakesh Kumar Singh Bhadauria, Air Officer Commanding in Chief, Southern Air Command, Indian Air Force

"When one looks back at the kind of teamwork that has gone into this project, it's amazing. It is an inspiring day for all of us.”
Air Marshal Rajesh Kumar, Senior Air Staff Officer, HQ Eastern Air Command, Indian Air Force

“It's a great day for ADA and DRDO. Team Tejas is today proud that an idea that took birth in late 1980's has turned into a reality today.”
Dr. S Christopher, DRDO Chief

"A memorable day for all of us. It has been years of hard work put together by various agencies that resulted into the formation of the first Tejas Squadron."
Mr. T Suvarna Raju, HAL Chairman

"The LCA is unique in terms of safety. It is one of the few development aircraft to have completed over 3180 sorties without any major incident."
Cmde C D Balaji (Retd), Former Programme Director - LCA

 

[lcafanboy]

"The LCA is unique in terms of safety. It is one of the few development aircraft to have completed over 3180 sorties without any major incident."

Give it to IAF and see how they ruin its safety record. IAF has crashed 2 Mirage 2000s back to back a few years ago. 4 su 30 mki and Jaguars which are twin engined.

Maintenance is equally important and IAF is negligent in maintaining Fighters. So pray that LCA are safe.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

IAF maintenance crew are excellent and perhaps best in the world, What is wrong is the spare are mostly sourced from third parties and IAF fly these machines like crazy the sorties rate in peace time is quite high compare to many nations in war time ..

Tejas is design under supervision of IAF, And its most maintenance friendly aircraft presently in IAF ..

Give it to IAF and see how they ruin its safety record. IAF has crashed 2 Mirage 2000s back to back a few years ago. 4 su 30 mki and Jaguars which are twin engined.

Maintenance is equally important and IAF is negligent in maintaining Fighters. So pray that LCA are safe.

 

[Steven Rogers]

Give it to IAF and see how they ruin its safety record. IAF has crashed 2 Mirage 2000s back to back a few years ago. 4 su 30 mki and Jaguars which are twin engined.

Maintenance is equally important and IAF is negligent in maintaining Fighters. So pray that LCA are safe.

That's absurd, when CAG reports that IAF used Su30mki double the specified flight hours, you're complaining about crashes, didn't you forgot that F15 had a record of 1 crash every year since its induction to 2011.

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[tejas warrior]

Give it to IAF and see how they ruin its safety record. IAF has crashed 2 Mirage 2000s back to back a few years ago. 4 su 30 mki and Jaguars which are twin engined.

Maintenance is equally important and IAF is negligent in maintaining Fighters. So pray that LCA are safe.

45 Squadron of IAF have completed more than 600 stories.

IAF maintenance crew are excellent and perhaps best in the world, What is wrong is the spare are mostly sourced from third parties and IAF fly these machines like crazy the sorties rate in peace time is quite high compare to many nations in war time ..

Tejas is design under supervision of IAF, And its most maintenance friendly aircraft presently in IAF ..

Rightly said by Kunal Sir.

IAF 45 Squadron with Tejas has done more than 600+ stories with an average 4/5 birds.

This proves it's very high availability rate + Maintance friendly.

Also, since it's made in India, ease of sourcing components will be easier.

Don't be surprised if Tejas comes out with highest availability than anything in IAF after 2/3 years when 2+ squadron comes in service.

 

[Armand2REP]

Give it to IAF and see how they ruin its safety record. IAF has crashed 2 Mirage 2000s back to back a few years ago. 4 su 30 mki and Jaguars which are twin engined.

Maintenance is equally important and IAF is negligent in maintaining Fighters. So pray that LCA are safe.

Just look at Yak-130s fresh off the assembly line, 6 crashes this year and IAF never touched it.

 

[darshan978]

Just look at Yak-130s fresh off the assembly line, 6 crashes this year and IAF never touched it.

yeah bd's yak crash few days ago

 

[tejas warrior]

#TejasUpdate #6 | #Tejas will participate in upcoming pan-Indian war games #ExGaganshakthi set 2 go live in March-April. All combat fighters will partake in this Ex set to test #IAF's NCW capabilities, reports @ajitkdubey. #Tejas has already participated in #ExLiveWire
@akananth

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal Birender S Dhanoa with Air Marshal Singh of NFTC.

 

[Sidd]

Now it seems evident that IAF will have 200+ Tejas in its inventory.
Now I can die in peace. :biggrin2:

 

[wuzetian]

Now it seems evident that IAF will have 200+ Tejas in its inventory.
Now I can die in peace. :biggrin2:

How? Any fresh order after the 83 ?

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[tejas warrior]

In Lok Sabha. The below information given by RRM Subhash Bhamre in a written reply to Prof Saugata Roy and Innocent today.
@akananth

 

[Prashant12]

Tejas inducted into 45 Squadron of the Air Force, to fly in IAF war game

This will be a big boost to the Make in India progarmme and will be a big landmark for the indigenous aircraft development project.


In a major boost to Make in India in defence sector, the Indian Air Force (IAF) is for the first time planning to deploy the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas in its mega pan-India exercise called 'Gaganshakti' in which almost all the combat aircraft of the service will take part in March-April this year.

The LCA Tejas planes have been inducted into the 45 Squadron of the IAF in the Initial Operational Clearance (IOC) configuration and are being readied for carrying out operational roles in the near future.

"A few of the tests have to be done on the LCA which are in the process of being carried out. After these are done, the plan is to deploy the planes in the forthcoming pan-India war games code-named 'Exercise Gaganshakti'," government sources told Mail Today.

This will be a big boost to the Make in India progarmme and will be a big landmark for the indigenous aircraft development project, which is now entering an important phase of getting operational, an IAF official said.

The LCA project approved in 1983 has been marred by delays due to the sanction regime of the United States in the late 1990s and early 2000s and delays on part of laboratories of the DRDO.

However, the programme received a major push from the defence ministry as recently, the defence minister-led Defence Acquisition Council cleared the Rs 48,000 crore project to procure 83 LCA Mk1A from Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and the tender in this regard was issued last week to the public sector firm.

The Gaganshakti exercise is a pan-India war game conducted by the Air Force across its operational commands where the response of the force is checked to the threats faced by it on different fronts.

During the exercise, the IAF will operate its latest acquisitions in a network-centric environment, achieving very high levels of synergy with the Army and the Navy, sources in the Air Force said.

During this exercise, several hundred combat planes including the Su-30MKI, Mirage-2000, Jaguars and MiG 29s would take part and hundreds of missions would be flown with impeccable planning and execution, they said.

The exercise will be based on a scenario that included rapid deployment across the country at all operational Air Force bases.

Meanwhile, defence experts feel that the decision to procure the LCA will reduce the dependence on imports.

The IAF has already placed orders for 20 LCA Mark 1 aircraft which would be more of technology demonstrators but the IAF was more interested in having the LCA Mark 2, which would be a more capable and upgraded version of the indigenous plane in the making for the last over two decades.

The HAL would first deliver the Mark 1 aircraft to the IAF and then would produce the Mark 1A in the interim till the time it is ready with the Mark 2 version.

The project would give a strong push to the indigenous fighter aircraft industry as this would be the first major bulk production order for the plane.


http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...r-force-to-fly-in-iaf-war-game/1/1122647.html

 

[Pulkit]

IAF 45 Squadron with Tejas has done more than 600+ stories with an average 4/5 birds.

Source for this information please.
If its an estimate please share that as well.

I also wanna know the average sortie duration and the life expectancy of Tejas. (Information is not available on line i tried).

 

[Sancho]

In Lok Sabha. The below information given by RRM Subhash Bhamre in a written reply to Prof Saugata Roy and Innocent today.
@akananth

Correct me please if I got the conversions from cores to million wrong, but does this mean that the unit costs come down to...

LCA MK1 IOC = 21 million USD
LCA MK1 FOC = 47 million USD
Su 30 MKI = 59 million USD

 

[proud_indian]

Correct me please if I got the conversions from cores to million wrong, but does this mean that the unit costs come down to...

LCA MK1 IOC = 21 million USD
LCA MK1 FOC = 47 million USD
Su 30 MKI = 59 million USD

Su 30 MKI would be 51 million USD

 

[Sancho]

Su 30 MKI would be 51 million USD

Thx, but LCA figures were correct? How on earth did the FOC price doubled? IFR, new nose, A2A weapon integration???