ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Flame Thrower]

foc deadline Dec 2018..we may see mk1a after that ...... hope for the best guys

Dec 2018 is totally unfair...........

 

[patriots]

I had asked that question to Saurav

good ....but no one is reveling the secret s ... what's going on ....

 

[patriots]

Dec 2018 is totally unfair...........

hope Hal will finish development s before... December. intialy they have planned to finish within March 2018

some delaying factors like python is their. ..

 

[dumdumdum]

The Flying Daggers Squadron is presently operating from HAL in Bengaluru, but will eventually move to its official base in Sulur, Tamil Nadu.

Noob Questions:
Given that Tejas Squadron is going to be based in TN, in actual war situation how does it reach its target? Do they move to some base nearer to the Eastern/Western boarder & take off for missions from there? Or do they refuel midair before going on a mission?

What's the advantage of having a fighter with relatively smaller flying radius being based so far away from where the actual action might happen?

 

[sorcerer]

Noob Questions:
Given that Tejas Squadron is going to be based in TN, in actual war situation how does it reach its target? Do they move to some base nearer to the Eastern/Western boarder & take off for missions from there? Or do they refuel midair before going on a mission?

What's the advantage of having a fighter with relatively smaller flying radius being based so far away from where the actual action might happen?

It is also the first fighter squadron to be part of the Southern Air Command of IAF headquarters at Thiruvananthapuram.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._45_Squadron_IAF

 

[abingdonboy]

I thought they had started work on increasing production to 32 per year.

HAL can deliver 24/year from 2019/20 IF Govt gives them more orders otherwise they will only deliver 16/year.

Once again the ONLY thing holding back LCA production now its the GOI/IAF, if they were serious about tackling the SQN strength depletion they'd have ordered >200 LCAs from the outset instead of a measly 83(+20) but instead they are pursing this absurd foreign single engine fighter jet deal. For the cost of 90 F-16s 300 LCA could be built, Modi's "Make in India" is a sham-it's just an attempt to sell this crappy deal to the Indian people.

Modi is busy killing Indian MIC just so India can get the same jets the PAF have operated for decades!

 

[SELVAM]

Tejas most likely will end up us Arjun tank. It will be in forever development

 

[abingdonboy]

hope Hal will finish development s before... December. intialy they have planned to finish within March 2018

some delaying factors like python is their. ..

FOC is irrelevent now, MK.1A is the focus- everything HAL is doing these days is with MK.1A in mind, FOC for Mk.1 doesn't mean much when only 40 Mk.1 will ever be produced. Mk.1A will be the game changing moment for the LCA project.

 

[abingdonboy]

Tejas most likely will end up us Arjun tank. It will be in forever development

The parallels are disturbing, Arjun too was fked over by IA who ordered 400+ T-90 after commiting to just 120 Arjuns but I only hope that the LCA's massive cost advantadge and how many stakeholders are now being created in the LCA project (70% outsourcing to private sector) will save it from the same fate.

IA and IAF in general are hostile to domestic prodcuts.

 

[Kshithij]

FOC is irrelevent now, MK.1A is the focus- everything HAL is doing these days is with MK.1A in mind, FOC for Mk.1 doesn't mean much when only 40 Mk.1 will ever be produced. Mk.1A will be the game changing moment for the LCA project.

Mk1A is also limited. Hence, the slow pace of construction to keep expertise till MK2 comes in. The 130 planes are the only MK1 series. Next all are MK2

BTW, what is the point of Tejas sitting in South India? South India is a peninsula with ocean on all sides!

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Until the full squadron is formed, It will be stationed at southern India ..

 

[abingdonboy]

Until the full squadron is formed, It will be stationed at southern India ..

The full SQN will be based permently in TN at Sular, already work is going on to create the full SQN facilitis at Sular. Southern India will 45 SQN's home for the forseeable future.

 

[abingdonboy]

BTW, what is the point of Tejas sitting in South India? South India is a peninsula with ocean on all sides!

SAC needs fighters also, the idea is to provide aircover to every corner of the nation, until now SAC had zero fighters in its command.

 

[G10]

foc deadline Dec 2018..we may see mk1a after that ...... hope for the best guys

Tarikh pe Tarikh. Kab hoga faisla?

 

[LordOfTheUnderworlds]

Private companies to carry out 70% of production work for Light Combat Aircraft Tejas
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Highlights

• Major sub-assemblies such as front fuselage, centre fuselage, rear fuselage, wings et al, have been outsourced to private industry
• About 85 vendors (private firms) will be involved in the production of LCA

In a move that will help meet delivery deadlines, defence PSU Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has decided to outsource majority of the production work of Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas. The move will see private firms make nearly 70% of the aircraft.

Presently, HAL is manufacturing LCA Mk1 and is a working on the ramping up of production capacity from eight to 16 aircraft per annum, which it expects to happen by 2019.

"Major sub-assemblies such as front fuselage, centre fuselage, rear fuselage, wings et al, have been outsourced to private industry. The orders have been placed and they need about an year to supply these. Soon, nearly 70% will be made by our industry," a senior official part of the LCA project told TOI.

About 85 vendors (private firms) will be involved in the production of LCA. Some major players are: Dynamatic Technologies Ltd, Bengaluru (front fuselage); VEM Technologies, Hyderabad (centre fuselage); Alpha Tocol, Bengaluru (rear fuselage); L&T, Coimbatore (wings); while the tail fin and rudder will be supplied by National Aerospace Laboratory and Tata Advanced Materials Ltd.

"With increased level of outsourcing and capacity within HAL, we will be able to speed up the deliveries to cater to the present and future requirements of our customers.Enhanced outsourcing is the norm being followed across some important projects at HAL. For example LCH production will involve outsourcing as a major strategy," another senior HAL official said.

HAL has established a second line series production of Tejas, which has come up at Aircraft Division and is being equipped with full-fledged assembly jigs. HAL's plan for expanding Tejas production to 16 fighters per year involves establishing a second assembly line. This has physically replaced the Hawk trainer line.

The number 45 squadron (Flying Daggers) of the Indian Air Force (IAF) has already taken possession of five LCA Tejas aircraft and will soon have the sixth one. "The sixth one is expected to fly in the next three days and the seventh in about 10 days. By end of March 2018, we hope to deliver 11 planes (including the five delivered)," the official said.

For the first time, the IAF squadron completed the armament detachment—weapons firing—in September and October this year. "That was the proof of the pudding. It was not a developmental test, the squadron that will fly and fight has completed the detachment, and we were glad that it was successful," an IAF source said.

The Flying Daggers Squadron is presently operating from HAL in Bengaluru, but will eventually move to its official base in Sulur, Tamil Nadu.

Tejas, which was first conceived in the early 1980s and officially approved in August 1983, is an indigenous fighter that has undergone several changes before being accepted by the IAF in January 2015. While the first 40 aircraft will be supplied in the present configuration, the IAF has sought more improvements for future ones.


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ction-work-for-tejas/articleshow/61363473.cms

Are any of these listed in stock markets?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Its more logical to put a MKI squadron at southern India then Tejas, I doubt the squadron will be stationed there but will eventually moved to frontline areas ..

This is the same squadron which shot down PN Atlantique, And were given MIG-21 bisons ..

The full SQN will be based permently in TN at Sular, already work is going on to create the full SQN facilitis at Sular. Southern India will 45 SQN's home for the forseeable future.

SAC needs fighters also, the idea is to provide aircover to every corner of the nation, until now SAC had zero fighters in its command.

 

[sorcerer]

Are any of these registered in stock markets?

HAL IPO is coming soon!!! Try your luck
Dynamatic Technologies is on NSE/ DYNAMATECH
Larsen & Toubro Limited /LT
Tata Advanced materials was on NSE/BSE for some reason trading is suspended.

Defense sector overall looks bright for me.

 

[aditya10r]

HAL IPO is coming soon!!! Try your luck
Dynamatic Technologies is on NSE/ DYNAMATECH
Larsen & Toubro Limited /LT
Tata Advanced materials was on NSE/BSE for some reason trading is suspended.

Defense sector overall looks bright for me.

Thanks for the heads-up.

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[tejas warrior]

HAL IPO is coming soon!!! Try your luck
Dynamatic Technologies is on NSE/ DYNAMATECH
Larsen & Toubro Limited /LT
Tata Advanced materials was on NSE/BSE for some reason trading is suspended.

Defense sector overall looks bright for me.

Tell us a few more Defense companies who are listed :biggrin2:

 

[sorcerer]

Tell us a few more Defense companies who are listed :biggrin2:

A few listed are
Cochin Shipyard /COCHINSHIP
Reliance Naval and Engineering -RNAVAL
ABG Shipyard / ABGSHIP
Kalyani Forge / KALYANIFRG

Walchandnagar/WALCHANNAG
(This is a nice company, as they do specialized works
First to Manufacture

• • • Critical components for Nuclear Reactor
    • Main propulsion gear boxes for Indian built Navy Frigates
    • Components for Satellite launch vehicle for ISRO
    • Critical components for 235 MW & 500 MW Nuclear Power project
    • One of the largest Optical Telescope in Asia
    • Critical components for India’s first Moon mission “CHANDRAYAAN-I”
    • Major critical components for India’s Intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) program “Agni V”.
    • Critical components for India’s first Mars mission ”MANGALYAAN”.
  http://www.walchand.com/about-us/company-profile/overview/

Then we have our loving Bharat Electronics Ltd/ BEL . and BEML Limited/BEML and
Bharat Forge Limited / BHARATFORG

Astra Microwave /ASTRAMICRO

We should have a dedicated thread for our INDIAN DEFENSE COMPANIES discussing their performance and reviews. Not just for the information on stock prices but...we can share a lot of insight into what all technologies our companies, especially the private ones have in ONE SINGLE REPOSITORY.
Like many of my friends didnt know that Walchandnagar was a defence and aero specialist company as the name sounded not at all funky like defense