ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

Which role suits LCA 'Tejas' more than others from following options?

  • Interceptor-Defend Skies from Intruders.

    Votes: 342 51.3%
  • Airsuperiority-Complete control of the skies.

    Votes: 17 2.5%
  • Strike-Attack deep into enemy zone.

    Votes: 24 3.6%
  • Multirole-Perform multiple roles.

    Votes: 284 42.6%

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Rahul Singh

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People can hate or like for their own reasons. But only that is getting standard aborad Tejas are these two in perfect harmonic combination.

Fortunately, one has already been cleared for induction. Other is getting readied for flight tests(maybe already undergoing) on a Tejas--something that puts it a step ahead of foreign options.

 

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My guess is may be achieving higher AoA of 24+ degrees as stated by @ersakthivel or may be increasing G limits to 8+. Airframe is freezed for Mk1 so i doubt any structural change(no canards or something); we wait and see.

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/ada-tejas-lca-news-and-discussions.1/page-463

Courtesy: BR.

Excited!

Oh wait! the BR source say "something that was always seen in wind tunnel models, but was believed to have been dropped in final product"..............So has to be a structural change. New canopy or maybe nose plug extension.
 

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My guess is may be achieving higher AoA of 24+ degrees as stated by @ersakthivel or may be increasing G limits to 8+. Airframe is freezed for Mk1 so i doubt any structural change(no canards or something); we wait and see.

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/ada-tejas-lca-news-and-discussions.1/page-463
After seeing his follow up post (BR poster Indraneil's) I am convinced that he is hinting about centre line drop tanks. Maybe a newer one than what we have seen on N-LCA MK-1 so far.
 

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I am all in for LCA MK2 for Navy but I am unable to imagine it coming before the Airforce version.
Why?
1) Technologically it is more tedious to develop a Naval Version.
2) The Landing System and Takeoff, Limits the extents a designer can explore options.
3) We don't have the experience to create the Naval version directly.
4) Economically it will not be feasible to design an aircrafts for Navy alone.
5) I know it doesn't not matter but IAF has already committed itself to MK2 but Navy has recently sidelined itself.
6) If Mk1A is a success then I am sure MK2 will get a boost but its not looking healthy.
It is possible to develop simultaneously two prototypes for navy and airforce if you look at history of Rafale development. Rafale C01 (air) first flew in May 1991, followed by Rafale M01 (sea) in December 1991. Maybe Indian Navy and IAF should work together with assistance of Dassault. Just saying ...:yo:
 

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It is possible to develop simultaneously two prototypes for navy and airforce if you look at history of Rafale development. Rafale C01 air first flew in May 1991, followed by Rafale M01 in December 1991. Maybe Indian Navy and IAF should work together with assistance of Dassault. Just saying ...:yo:
As I mentioned above, navy version is strengthened and foldable version of air force plane. So, the initial test flight to test the flight worthiness is using the simplest version and hence air force version always is first
 

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why iaf not considered Tejas in highway land ...any idea. ...is high way landing require s a lots of training ...and iaf pilots are not familiar with Tejas ...

or any other reason
 

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why iaf not considered Tejas in highway land ...any idea. ...is high way landing require s a lots of training ...and iaf pilots are not familiar with Tejas ...

or any other reason
Tejas sqn is based out at Banglore right now. This excercise was to test operational readiness of IAF sqnds based out at Northern India.
 

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why iaf not considered Tejas in highway land ...any idea. ...is high way landing require s a lots of training ...and iaf pilots are not familiar with Tejas ...

or any other reason
Without In-flight refuelling, it was not sensible to send Tejas so far away for a risky exercise which IAF itself does not have enough experience about.

Once Tejas is certified with IFR it will be seen all over India. But that will only happen when Tejas MK-1A starts getting inducted.
 

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any update on Tejas mk1a ...and foc version

foc version will be delayed...due to python vibration..... what's about other pending activities...gun ,mid air refueling..@tejas warrior @lcafanboy@TPFscopes
 

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any update on Tejas mk1a ...and foc version

foc version will be delayed...due to python vibration..... what's about other pending activities...gun ,mid air refueling..@tejas warrior @lcafanboy@TPFscopes
From IDF Parikrama........

French have offered a lot under the Tejas program including every part of the plane that is imported as of date.
These parts are to be made in DRAL, BEL, Safran India and supports the ecosystem by amlgamating present LCA ecosystem with DRAL underdevelopment MIC.
The take away is off course that everything offered is combined developed for current and future part.
Based on NSA Doval Initiative beyond the 36 Rafale next set, discussion are more into a joint pact for Make In India Rafale and a scope of AMCA collaboration. A platform jointly developed for both France and India incorporating evolutionary aspects of Rafale NG and Indian AMCA.
This is contingent on LCA MK1A/B/X success based on new MIC plan.
On LCA improved version, not everything will be made public owing to nature of this deal and extensive negotiations.
India has said it wants to portray MII image so things are waiting for that.
The limited changes that are happening in MK1A is more to do with serviceability/operations qnd improving the radar, avionics and engine perspectives then anything else
Also it gives the french a foothold.
 

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From IDF Parikrama........

French have offered a lot under the Tejas program including every part of the plane that is imported as of date.
These parts are to be made in DRAL, BEL, Safran India and supports the ecosystem by amlgamating present LCA ecosystem with DRAL underdevelopment MIC.
The take away is off course that everything offered is combined developed for current and future part.
Based on NSA Doval Initiative beyond the 36 Rafale next set, discussion are more into a joint pact for Make In India Rafale and a scope of AMCA collaboration. A platform jointly developed for both France and India incorporating evolutionary aspects of Rafale NG and Indian AMCA.
This is contingent on LCA MK1A/B/X success based on new MIC plan.
On LCA improved version, not everything will be made public owing to nature of this deal and extensive negotiations.
India has said it wants to portray MII image so things are waiting for that.
The limited changes that are happening in MK1A is more to do with serviceability/operations qnd improving the radar, avionics and engine perspectives then anything else
Also it gives the french a foothold.
Hal is maintaining secrecy now a days..... only insiders can give some info...some tests are going on in chandipur ... . nothing is clear ,and we r delaying the project ..
 

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From IDF Parikrama........

French have offered a lot under the Tejas program including every part of the plane that is imported as of date.
These parts are to be made in DRAL, BEL, Safran India and supports the ecosystem by amlgamating present LCA ecosystem with DRAL underdevelopment MIC.
The take away is off course that everything offered is combined developed for current and future part.
Based on NSA Doval Initiative beyond the 36 Rafale next set, discussion are more into a joint pact for Make In India Rafale and a scope of AMCA collaboration. A platform jointly developed for both France and India incorporating evolutionary aspects of Rafale NG and Indian AMCA.
This is contingent on LCA MK1A/B/X success based on new MIC plan.
On LCA improved version, not everything will be made public owing to nature of this deal and extensive negotiations.
India has said it wants to portray MII image so things are waiting for that.
The limited changes that are happening in MK1A is more to do with serviceability/operations qnd improving the radar, avionics and engine perspectives then anything else
Also it gives the french a foothold.
What IS MIC??????????????...............
 

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for all tejas fan ......one question... as we know foc versions will be further upgraded to mk1a...is it possible to upgrade ioc to foc
 

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^^ Absolutely, IOC - Airframe verification, FOC - Weapons / Sw. integration.

The major point of contention is the validity of airframe once you have got that under the belt, s.w updates will happen throughout the life.

IOC, FOC will be converted into MK1a in due course of time. Cannot comment on Mk2 since it'll be a major airframe change.
 
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