ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[abingdonboy]

The Question is when will Mk 1 A be ready

There has been no news for over an year

The Government must be knowing the problems
it is facing

Therefore they have started this new Single engine competition

Mk.1A is progessing well, don't expect weekly updates. Much of the MK.1A's "plug and play" systems will be tested out on the FOC Mk.1 anyway so progress on that front is progress on the Mk.1A front, the rest of the MK.1A improvements (LRU repositioning) can be carrier out internally with little fanfare and are on the procurement side (radar and EW systems) and that is its own process.

When the FOC is acheived for MK.1, MK.1A is going to be given a huge boost.

I suspect the "birth" of Mk1a will co-incide when the first Tejas fitted with Kaveri-Safran powerplant takes to the skies.

Hmm, potentially around the same time but the projects remain de-linked.


As an aside, Safran is recruiting a M88 / Kaveri Military Engine Performance Engineer.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=https://www.safran-group.com/talents/Ouroffers/offer/50278&sandbox=1

Later to be updated to MK - 1A standards in phase.

That's not how I read it, instead much of the "plug and play" systems can simply be fitted on the MK.1 from the outset as they are off the shelf and certified already, all that will be required are a few validation sorties on the LSP-07 that can be taken care of during the interim between FOC and FOC Mk.1 production.

 

[Saichand K]

Can somebody throw some light on the tweet what does this exactly mean ?

May be he means that FOC LCAs can be upgraded to Mk1A standard. Since there is no change in air-frame.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

KH-2018 (LSP-8) landing back after a test sortie with the IFR.
Slowly but steadily, these tests will culminate in dry and wet engagement to the feeder machine.

Jai Hind..

#LCA #Tejas_LCA #TejasOfficialArchive #NFTC #ADA

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The Test Pilot closely examines the aircraft before embarking for one of the most Crucial FOC Tasks where the Derby Missile in RADAR guided mode was fired from LCA Tejas LSP-4. The missile achieved a direct hit during the trial conducted at Kalaikunda, West Bengal in May.

Copyright: #ADA | Photo Credit: #DebRana
#HAL #NFTC #DerbyMissile #TejasLCA

 

[Pulkit]

Kaveri Safran engine cannot have the exact same dimensions
as GE 404

So fitting it will be an issue
That will cause more delays

If Mk 1 A gets delayed after 2020 ; LCA project will loose
all its support and viability

Mk 1 A is very crucial

the initial design and testing was done to support Kaveri so fitting Kaveri should not be an issue and they must have work around with the option of replacing GE 404 with Kaveri in future.The issue can be the success of Kaveri.
Yes If MK 1A get belayed beyond 2020 even the die hard supporters of Kaveri will not have much will to support it.

 

[Pulkit]

Why is that so? Kaveri was designed with LCA in mind and the Safran contract has been agreed with the mandate that first LCA with the "hybrid" Kaveri engine will fly by 2019.

Kaveri diameter is almost identical to that of GE404- 35 inches. In fact EJ200 which was a strong contender for Tejas has a diameter of only 29 inches.

You are right mayfair it can be replaced with Kaveri. GE 404 was selected because it was very close to Kaveri.

 

[Pulkit]

Later to be updated to MK - 1A standards in phase.

Or are they planning to delay FOC will MK1A is ready.....???????

 

[Pulkit]

May be he means that FOC LCAs can be upgraded to Mk1A standard. Since there is no change in air-frame.

Yes it can be upgraded but not immediately if they are built FOC standard they can be only upgraded to MK1A after 10-12 years when there first upgrade is to be scheduled.

 

[Pulkit]

Mk.1A is progessing well, don't expect weekly updates. Much of the MK.1A's "plug and play" systems will be tested out on the FOC Mk.1 anyway so progress on that front is progress on the Mk.1A front, the rest of the MK.1A improvements (LRU repositioning) can be carrier out internally with little fanfare and are on the procurement side (radar and EW systems) and that is its own process.

No One is expecting update weekly but yes its been long when we had any news on MK1A same for for FOC.
No timelines No targets.....

 

[tejas warrior]

No One is expecting update weekly but yes its been long when we had any news on MK1A same for for FOC.
No timelines No targets.....

May be some announcement may come up during Modi's Israel visit if Elta 2052 AESA(in most probability should be selected) is selected by HAL/ADA/IAF.

 

[Pulkit]

May be some announcement may come up during Modi's Israel visit if Elta 2052 AESA(in most probability should be selected) is selected by HAL/ADA/IAF.

So no way they are gonna build Uttam AESA in time then.... I would have liked that.
Elta 2052 AESA is also a good choice. Any updates on FOC timeline and Uttam weight reduction ?

 

[Saichand K]

One major issue for Mk1A is reduction of weight. If weight is reduced by atleast 500kgs, many of the problems simply go away.

 

[WolfPack86]

We checked out the HAL stand at #PAS17. Some African delegates meeting with officials on the LCA & LCH.
https://twitter.com/livefist?lang=en

 

[kstriya]

We checked out the HAL stand at #PAS17. Some African delegates meeting with officials on the LCA & LCH.
https://twitter.com/livefist?lang=en

After mating the uprated Kaveri engine, can we reduce the cost of LCA MK1 with Indian radar (MMR) & weapons suite lesser than the JF (Junk Fuddu) 17 ??????? Uttam AESA should be charged with a premium if it gets certified on time and is matted with LCA..

 

[abingdonboy]

So no way they are gonna build Uttam AESA in time then.... I would have liked that.
Elta 2052 AESA is also a good choice. Any updates on FOC timeline and Uttam weight reduction ?

Uttam has NOTHING to do with Mk.1A or the LCA project as of now, it is in the advanced stages of development by DRDO and getting ready to commence flight trails, ADA have actually offered up an LCA test bed for them.

Uttam could be seen on future LCA orders (second batch of MK.1A and Mk.2) but because of the timelines for the MK.1A to be ready (2019-20) HAL are going for an off the shelf AESA buy for the intial 83 unit batch.

 

[Saichand K]

On a side discussion, how come Tejas is never equipped with wing-tip AAMs? Wing-tips would have been an extra hard points.

 

[Pulkit]

Uttam has NOTHING to do with Mk.1A or the LCA project as of now, it is in the advanced stages of development by DRDO and getting ready to commence flight trails, ADA have actually offered up an LCA test bed for them.

Uttam could be seen on future LCA orders (second batch of MK.1A and Mk.2) but because of the timelines for the MK.1A to be ready (2019-20) HAL are going for an off the shelf AESA buy for the intial 83 unit batch.

I knew that I asked if anyone has info on FOC and weight reduction of Uttam.

 

[Prashant12]

30 Jun 2017..
On the final day of the first year of Sqn Formation day, HAL, LCA Production Group had the first flight of LCA SP-6 (LA-5006).
After the initial flights, SP-6 will be the fifth member of Flying Daggers..

https://www.facebook.com/tejas.lca/

 

[tejas warrior]

30 Jun 2017..
On the final day of the first year of Sqn Formation day, HAL, LCA Production Group had the first flight of LCA SP-6 (LA-5006).
After the initial flights, SP-6 will be the fifth member of Flying Daggers..

https://www.facebook.com/tejas.lca/

They made it. Congratulations.

 

[Suryavanshi]

30 Jun 2017..
On the final day of the first year of Sqn Formation day, HAL, LCA Production Group had the first flight of LCA SP-6 (LA-5006).
After the initial flights, SP-6 will be the fifth member of Flying Daggers..

https://www.facebook.com/tejas.lca/

Im sorry but What does this mean

 

[Saichand K]

30 Jun 2017..
On the final day of the first year of Sqn Formation day, HAL, LCA Production Group had the first flight of LCA SP-6 (LA-5006).
After the initial flights, SP-6 will be the fifth member of Flying Daggers..

https://www.facebook.com/tejas.lca/

Hopefully, they will retain the same color scheme instead of the mixed color scheme like earlier SPs. This is lot cooler.