ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Superdefender]

Tejas will detect F16s (what Pakis have) before F16s will detect them.

It's due to small size + composite materials used in Tejas.

BUT Tejas is a light combat aircraft , not an air superiority aircraft. Lets leave that to SU30mki.
We have 272 of them. So chances of F16 meeting Su30s are more than meetings with Tejas.

*With new ASEA, situation will swing in favour of Tejas in a long way.

What I wanted to say was that Tejas can intercept F-16 incase MKI was busy in any other task. By the way accoding to "Asia Times", SU-30MKI are outdated and inferior & Pak F-16 are superior to them!!! Can you believe their intellectual level?

 

[tejas warrior]

The first Tejas MK-1A is expected to roll out only in 2021. Expect the Mk-I production rate to be the slowest in history.

 

[Prashant12]

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[Raj Malhotra]

HAL was allotted money to create infrastructure for manufacturing 8 LCA per annum in 2001. They failed to set up the assembly line and even the "paint shop" was completed only in 2015. The present assembly line can only manufacture 4 LCA per annum. An assembly plant is generic and even if small changes were envisaged in LCA due to testing, the same did not prevent HAL from setting up the assembly line well in advance of IOC-1 or atleast after IOC-1. But it seems that HAL and IAF top brass are hell bent on delaying and killing of LCA. After 36 Rafale order, lobbying will start for more Rafales or another light foreign fighter and new excuses will be found to delay LCA. It will be Arjun Vs. (T-90 and upgraded T-72) again. Or Dhanush vs foreign howitzers. Or Indian AD gun vs Imports etc.​

 

[sorcerer]

India To Start Production of Tejas Mark 1A Fighter Jet by 2021
New Delhi — Indian Air Force Chief Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha expressed satisfaction over the indigenous capabilities for producing the fighter jet.

"Next version of Light Combat Aircraft called Tejas Mark1-A would be an improved version. It will have better radar, weapons avionics. We can start production by 2021. We can have 80 such planes by 2027," said Raha.

The Tejas Mark1-A is a 4.5 generation aircraft the Indian government has said will not lead to the development of an indigenous fifth generation aircraft. In August this year, Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar said in Parliament, "there is a separate program between Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) from the Indian side and M/s Rosboronexport from the Russian side for Design and Development (D&D) of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA)."

Air Chief Marshal Raha said that the Indian Air Force is now in a position to continue with research and development of a FGFA.

India formed its first Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas squadron on July 1, 2016, with two LCA Initial Operational Configuration (IOC) series production aircraft. A further 18 IOC configured aircraft are planned for induction by 2018-19.

Source>>

 

[Saichand K]

A nice paper on undergoing work on design of supersonic drop tanks by NAL based on Tejas substrate
http://www.nal.res.in/CFDsympo17/cfdfullpaperfinal/CFD%20studies%20of%20a%20Supersonic%20drop%20tank%20for%20a%20generic.pdf
http://www.nal.res.in/CFDsympo17/cf...s of a Supersonic drop tank for a generic.pdf

 

[tharun]

India To Start Production of Tejas Mark 1A Fighter Jet by 2021
New Delhi — Indian Air Force Chief Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha expressed satisfaction over the indigenous capabilities for producing the fighter jet.

"Next version of Light Combat Aircraft called Tejas Mark1-A would be an improved version. It will have better radar, weapons avionics. We can start production by 2021. We can have 80 such planes by 2027," said Raha.

The Tejas Mark1-A is a 4.5 generation aircraft the Indian government has said will not lead to the development of an indigenous fifth generation aircraft. In August this year, Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar said in Parliament, "there is a separate program between Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) from the Indian side and M/s Rosboronexport from the Russian side for Design and Development (D&D) of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA)."

Air Chief Marshal Raha said that the Indian Air Force is now in a position to continue with research and development of a FGFA.

India formed its first Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas squadron on July 1, 2016, with two LCA Initial Operational Configuration (IOC) series production aircraft. A further 18 IOC configured aircraft are planned for induction by 2018-19.

Source>>

Production starts at 2021... and LCA full squadron by 2018-19.And still FGFA not finalized still under development
Can't our guys make jets faster...and by 2021 china willbe mass producing J-20 and J-31 and by 2027 they will be more than 200+ in numbers but what we should do import more jets and babu's get more commission

 

[AbRaj]

Tejas doesn't need Meteor. If we succeed in integrating Astra Mk. 2 with Tejas, it will be more than enough. It's primary job is an interceptor. I don't know which one will detect the other first in war between Tejas & F-16. But irrespective of what happens, Tejas will intercept F-16 as it will has 150km range Astra Mk.2. Pak will never have BVRAAMs of such range. F-16 medium bird will be outclassed by a Tejas light bird. Forget Su-30MKI or Rafale. They are for China centric.

Don't underestimate your enemies and their determination /desperation to destroy you.
They can sell their mothers to achieve somewhat parity with India. That's what they do

 

[Raj Malhotra]

http://ajaishukla.blogspot.in/2016/10/iaf-chief-blames-upa-for-procurement.html


http://defencenews.in/article/Rafal...-will-like-procure-more-of-it--IAF-Chief-8502


http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ays-iafs-air-chief-marshal-arup-raha-3065206/



As per Raha IAF Chief the Scenario for LCA is 120 Mk by around 2028 ie less than 10 per annum. Which matches with my earlier prognosis in BRF that production rate is not going to be enhanced to 16 per annum. HAL has no mandate to enhance production and even if starts the process, the production line will not be enhanced to 16 per annum before 2022-23.

Number of Roadblocks are indicated for LCA like first squadron within 1.5 years but Second FOC squadron only from third year onwards giving a gap of 1.5 years. Similar to Arjun, Dhansuh, Nag, Pinaka, Indian AD Gun story.

But Look at the enthusiasm for upgrading 30 year old Jags at US$ 40 million a pop but no enthusiasm for brand new LCA at US$ 20 apiece.

Today top military brass has to bear responsibility for misadvising the Govt. Do they go to political bosses and say, defer K-9 and Spike purchases as NVDs, BPJs, Shields, 106mm RCL are more important in the war that is being currently fought or any possible war that is actually envisaged.


Everybody loves arming for full scale all out air and mechanised warfare as it requires lots of gold plated costly toys which will never be used compared to equipment for light infantry.



Look at the statements of Raha, regarding imports, does one ever hear such statements in favour of routine indigenous equipment. Does Raha say, that even his Garudas and Base forces are short of NVDs, BPJs, Shields, undergrowth clearing equipment, reinforced hangers, spare parts, simulators etc. NO! He will ONLY talk about GRIPEN and another line of imports or more Rafales. CAG records that for Rs 5000 crore AWACS the hangers worth Rs 11 crore were delayed leading to damage to aircraft and the runaway has still not been extended.



How is Raha able to say that Rafale is super aircraft? Without even one Indian specific aircraft reaching India or even being manufactured?

WE HAVE THE HONOUR OF PURCHASING WORLD'S MOST EXPENSIVE FIGHTER AIRCRAFT IN PRODUCTION AT USD 150 MILLION (Bare Aircraft plus India specific modifications)

What is the focus of IAF chief as per his own statements? GRIPEN, RAFALE, PAKFA, costly imported upgrades to Jags, Su-30MKI. But no mention of :-


Spare parts, maintenance for other in service aircraft
Simulators
BPJs, Helmets, Shields, NVDs fro Garuda force
Protected pens for aircraft and ammo storage or Base Security
HTT-40, IJT, Saras, Rustom, LCH, LUH, ALH, Rudra
LCA MK-2, AMCA, AURORA , IMRH, RTA, NCA

 

[tharun]

Thing don't understand is why don't HAL outsource tejas?

 

[Indx TechStyle]

80 jets from 2021 to 2027 that mean 10 each year...how useless our assholes are..
AMCA is now in coma and our babu's will surely kill or delay..so that we can import more jets and more comission for to our beloved babu's

Well, that's Tejas Mk1A, equipped with AESA Radar and several better features.

For AMCA, even if it was made before making a standard 4.5gen fighter, it would have become another obsolete piece. Better to get set in 4th generation fighters first, then, making a proper fifth gen fighter within the schedule will be realistic.

 

[IndianHawk]

For AMCA, even if it was made before making a standard 4.5gen fighter, it would have become another obsolete piece. Better to get set in 4th generation fighters first, then, making a proper fifth gen fighter within the schedule will be realistic.

But we need to develop technologies simultaneously. Engine tech , AESA radar , advanced EW suite ,IRST and data fusion.
What we truly need is capacity expansion. We need more highly qualified engineers / scientist, even foreigners should be hired for different projects . And we need massive cash infusion at ones to raise standard of work ,tools , training and state of the art facilities.

 

[ezsasa]

When is IAF chief's term ending?....................

 

[tharun]

When is IAF chief's term ending?....................

Y? three years from charge or 62 of age..
He is now 61 and he took charge in 31st dec 2013

 

[IndianHawk]

You want to build a 5th gen engine without deciding on which aircraft the engine will go?

They have reportedly decided the dimensions and weight of Amca . That should be enough to start working. And what are we doing with USA in 5th gen engine working group??

 

[cannonfodder]

80 MK1A by 2027 ..

Where are the claims of 150+/200 LCA's. If first MK1-A in 2021 then better to focus on MK2 version then..

80 LCA by 2027 fir mig/jags replace kaun karega?? Jags are getting upgraded for $40m/piece. JF-17 bundar hi lelo china se.

India To Start Production of Tejas Mark 1A Fighter Jet by 2021
New Delhi — Indian Air Force Chief Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha expressed satisfaction over the indigenous capabilities for producing the fighter jet.

"Next version of Light Combat Aircraft called Tejas Mark1-A would be an improved version. It will have better radar, weapons avionics. We can start production by 2021. We can have 80 such planes by 2027," said Raha.

The Tejas Mark1-A is a 4.5 generation aircraft the Indian government has said will not lead to the development of an indigenous fifth generation aircraft. In August this year, Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar said in Parliament, "there is a separate program between Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) from the Indian side and M/s Rosboronexport from the Russian side for Design and Development (D&D) of the Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA)."

Air Chief Marshal Raha said that the Indian Air Force is now in a position to continue with research and development of a FGFA.

India formed its first Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas squadron on July 1, 2016, with two LCA Initial Operational Configuration (IOC) series production aircraft. A further 18 IOC configured aircraft are planned for induction by 2018-19.

Source>>

 

[Prashant12]

LCA Tejas SP-03

https://twitter.com/writetake

 

[Chinmoy]

LCA Tejas SP-03

https://twitter.com/writetake

It means it took three months for an SP to come out of the production line. Now that's impressive for me for any new timer. If two more production line gets introduced, we could easily ramp up one SP m\per month i.e. 12 SPs in one year.

 

[IndianHawk]

I am still waiting for a sexy menacing pic of lca . Fully polished no tapes and full weaponised with drop tank and all weapons etc with proper lighting. Gripen has been marketed beautifully. This creates huge change in perception.

 

[Prashant12]

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