ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Narasimh]

I am not sure if he is honest either. self praising and propaganda are the new norms now. I somehow knew it from the beginning about this hyperbole government.

There is no magic wand with any one. One has to do the best with what one has. Policy changes have been done by this govt. and a more is on its way after DPP16 and slowly that will show results. Nothing works overnight with the behemoth bureaucratic system the govt. has.

Sure our Monolith PSUs like HAL need to be streamlined but cant be done immediately. Decades of neglect cant be done away in one go.

Private industry is slowly coming in. In a decade or so Private footprint in defence will be considerable. The pilot project of Tata-Airbus CASA C-295 will be seen to gauge and understand how well private industry can adapt for Indian Aerospace needs.

 

[tejas warrior]

The question which has been hovering over all Tejas fan's mind now a days is what next to the squadron formation ceremony.
The squadron formation is an extremely demanding event for the program and that is why all the pending tasks need to be over as soon as possible. Besides this, the number of aircrafts have to grow. The initial hiccup on production will be over with SP-3 joining the flight line. Thereafter, Team Tejas anticipates that it will be a smooth sailing in meeting the demand.

Jai Hind..

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[Raj Malhotra]

18 LCA in Three years clearly shows that HAL was being Short with truth while claiming that it has already set up production line for 8 aircraft per annum and wants to enhance it to 16.

 

[tejas warrior]

HAL has capacity to produce 8 LCA Tejas per annum: Manohar Parrikar

Manohar Parrikar in his reply also said that there is no fighter aircraft project which is pending for decades. According to Parrikar, Tejas will help partially meet IAF’s requirement of light weight fighter planes. (PTI)

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has the capacity to produce eight Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas per annum, said Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar in a written reply in the Rajya Sabha today. Earlier this month, the Indian Air Force (IAF) inducted the indigenous Tejas aircraft.

IAF raised the first squadron of Tejas with the induction of two LCA Tejas and plans to the aircraft in combat role as early as 2017. Manohar Parrikar in his reply also said that there is no fighter aircraft project which is pending for decades. According to Parrikar, Tejas will help partially meet IAF’s requirement of light weight fighter planes.

Tejas is said to be smallest lightweight, multi-role single-engine tactical fighter aircraft in the world. It is also highly agile and is a multi-role supersonic fighter. The LCA, which has been several years in the making, boasts of a quadruplex digital fly-by-wire flight control system.


I'm very much worried with Parrikar using word Partially for light weight fighter.

 

[mahesh]

i was wondering how many Tejas jets are current exists i mean including TD, PV, NP, LSP, SP and trainer,

 

[Rahul Singh]

Both TDs have been emptied of systems. They are just showcase materials now, one at Palam AFM and other at minsk square Bangaluru. Rest are PV-1, PV-2, PV-3, PV-5, LSP-1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8, NP-1, NP-2 SP-1,SP-2. That's 19 LCA produced so far.

 

[Prashant12]

Tejas leading the pack of Kirans

 

[harsh]

Defense Electronics May Generate $72 Billion Biz: IESA

India’s defence electronics business will add $72-billion market opportunities within the next 10-year period, and the government has decided to form a task force to come up with new policy initiatives.


In an interaction with DH, India Electronics and Semiconductor Association (IESA) President M N Vidyashankar said the organisation has presented a report before Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar, last Monday in New Delhi.


“IESA presented the report before the defence minister on the opportunities in defence electronics, both platforms and systems, and quantified it at $72 billion. We gave him the smallest details on sectors to understand how the IESA reached this volume. The Defence Ministry will soon appoint a task force to look at tapping the low hanging fruits in this business segment,” said Vidyashankar.


The IESA president also said the meeting had the participation of the Defence Ministry Secretary, the Additional Secretary of DeitY, the Joint Secretary of DeitY, Directors of DeitY, and all service chiefs. If the low hanging business opportunities are capitalised soon, Vidyashankar said India will get many marketing and manufacturing opportunities in this sector.


“A few things can be done immediately to make this happen. The task force will identify these areas and monitor their implementation. While India’s information technology industry generated a total of $150 billion revenue for the past 30 years, defence electronics is giving us $72 billion within a decade,” he said.


He said the IESA report has used the heat matrix to identify the core competencies of Indian companies in the defence electronics.

“The report has brought out a mapping, which elaborates on the current capability of the private sector. It also explains what all capabilities will be achieved within the next two years, five years and 10 years. The report also elaborates on what all capabilities the private sector can achieve in platforms, systems and subsystems with foreign partnership and joint ventures,” he said.


Vidyashankar said India has 700 companies working in this area and once they tap the $72 billion opportunities, it will cross 2,000 companies. “We are eminently placed in the design aspect of defence electronic systems, and now it is important to convert this capability into a very efficient ecosystem for manufacturing,” he said.


Vidyashankar said that DEFTRONICS 2016, the third edition of the annual aerospace, defence & internal security event to be held in Bengaluru on August 4 and 5, will be organised in association with Nasscom.


“This year’s theme is ‘Building India’s Strategic Electronics Ecosystem’ for greater self-reliance and global relevance – defence, aerospace and internal security sectors,” Vidyashankar said.

Source
http://m.deccanherald.com/articles....0560/defence-electronics-may-generate-72.html

 

[Prashant12]

19th June 2008 was the day, when Tejas flew with first operational configuration after seven and half years of the maiden flight on Jan 2001. In between, the program had gone through several hurdles in clearing the technology demonstration phase and the full scale engineering development phase. However, flying with an external drop tank for the first time was not an easy task as the store needed certification from all probable flying events like what if the store needed to be jettisoned during take off or in flight due to emergency. The safe separation needed lots of CFD studies to ascertain all probable cases. A program which was doing this task for the first time, needed that extra mile in terms of time to do things for the first time. Lessons were learnt and were carried forward in certifying all other airborne stores.

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[tharun]

HAL has capacity to produce 8 LCA Tejas per annum: Manohar Parrikar

Manohar Parrikar in his reply also said that there is no fighter aircraft project which is pending for decades. According to Parrikar, Tejas will help partially meet IAF’s requirement of light weight fighter planes. (PTI)

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has the capacity to produce eight Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas per annum, said Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar in a written reply in the Rajya Sabha today. Earlier this month, the Indian Air Force (IAF) inducted the indigenous Tejas aircraft.

IAF raised the first squadron of Tejas with the induction of two LCA Tejas and plans to the aircraft in combat role as early as 2017. Manohar Parrikar in his reply also said that there is no fighter aircraft project which is pending for decades. According to Parrikar, Tejas will help partially meet IAF’s requirement of light weight fighter planes.

Tejas is said to be smallest lightweight, multi-role single-engine tactical fighter aircraft in the world. It is also highly agile and is a multi-role supersonic fighter. The LCA, which has been several years in the making, boasts of a quadruplex digital fly-by-wire flight control system.


I'm very much worried with Parrikar using word Partially for light weight fighter.

Just 8 per year? this shows how useless is our HAL....3 f-35 are manufactured per month and going to make 20 aircraft per month by 2019..can we atleast make two squadron per year by 2018?

 

[harsh]

Just 8 per year? this shows how useless is our HAL....3 f-35 are manufactured per month and going to make 20 aircraft per month by 2019..can we atleast make two squadron per year by 2018?

Manufacturing capacity installed is directly proportional to the number of orders .

F 35 has orders in thousands and lca has only 120.
that why you can't compare these two.
You should think about it.
a company with more than 5 decades of experience in aerospace can't be compared to a company which has no aerospace industry in that country. HAL is building a aerospace
Industry in india so that we can produce aircraft in future. Thats the best part of lca programme.

 

[rishivashista13]

Manufacturing capacity installed is directly proportional to the number of orders .

F 35 has orders in thousands and lca has only 120.
that why you can't compare these two.
You should think about it.
a company with more than 5 decades of experience in aerospace can't be compared to a company which has no aerospace industry in that country. HAL is building a aerospace
Industry in india so that we can produce aircraft in future. Thats the best part of lca programme.

If we order LCA in thousands then also HAL will be able to produce 8 aircrafts per year . It has no relation with no. of aircrafts ordered . It is all about capability of producing aircrafts .

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[tharun]

If we order LCA in thousands then also HAL will be able to produce 8 aircrafts per year . It has no relation with no. of aircrafts ordered . It is all about capability of producing aircrafts .

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Bang on target.......
Please remove this 30 char thing....

 

[tejas warrior]

If we order LCA in thousands then also HAL will be able to produce 8 aircrafts per year . It has no relation with no. of aircrafts ordered . It is all about capability of producing aircrafts .

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Sorry.

HAL has not been given fund & approval to make additional line to make 16/year.

 

[cannonfodder]

If HAL has (higher) firm orders, it can justify adding another production line to increase output to 16/year. It may even raise money itself.

If there is no substantial incentive in adding another line, HAL (or any industry) won't do it. It ends up being profit margin game. Though I would have liked HAL to show more confidence in Tejas and take more initiative/risk. Also, IAF's attitude is disappointing.

If we order LCA in thousands then also HAL will be able to produce 8 aircrafts per year . It has no relation with no. of aircrafts ordered . It is all about capability of producing aircrafts .

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[harsh]

If we order LCA in thousands then also HAL will be able to produce 8 aircrafts per year . It has no relation with no. of aircrafts ordered . It is all about capability of producing aircrafts .

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Profit is key for business. If HAL takes decision like you said it will soon go bankrupt.

And I feel like, you are not understanding the basics and very emotional about criticising HAL.

nobody can stop you please go on.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Presently its 8, It will turn 16 and eventually 25 ..

 

[abingdonboy]

Just 8 per year? this shows how useless is our HAL....3 f-35 are manufactured per month and going to make 20 aircraft per month by 2019..can we atleast make two squadron per year by 2018?

If we order LCA in thousands then also HAL will be able to produce 8 aircrafts per year . It has no relation with no. of aircrafts ordered . It is all about capability of producing aircrafts .

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Sorry.

HAL has not been given fund & approval to make additional line to make 16/year.

If HAL has (higher) firm orders, it can justify adding another production line to increase output to 16/year. It may even raise money itself.

If there is no substantial incentive in adding another line, HAL (or any industry) won't do it. It ends up being profit margin game. Though I would have liked HAL to show more confidence in Tejas and take more initiative/risk. Also, IAF's attitude is disappointing.

Profit is key for business. If HAL takes decision like you said it will soon go bankrupt.

And I feel like, you are not understanding the basics and very emotional about criticising HAL.

nobody can stop you please go on.

Current installed capacity is 8/year but this will increased to 16/year from 2018 onwards (when the MK.1A starts being churned out). I hope everyone realises that it makes ZERO sense to have 16 LCA being produced today as the current production standard is the IOC-2 LCA which is NOT what the IAF wants. They have agreed to take 20 IOC-2 LCA but want 100+ MK.1A and will retrofit the intial 20 to this standard.

Thusly, HAL will stick to 8/year for 2016 and 2017 to reach 20 IOC-2 LCA delivered by mid 2018 just in time to start producing the MK.1A at a rate of 16/year.


The roadmap is quite clear:

(^presented by Parrikar himself)


IF there are orders beyond 120 from the IAF (and export orders come in) then there is a high possibility of a private entity setting up their own LCA production unit (fingers crossed).

 

[abingdonboy]

Tejas leading the pack of Kirans

Looks like the Sagar Pawan display team of the Navy. Wouldn't it be a sight if the IN reformed this team with the N-LCA

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Just 8 per year? this shows how useless is our HAL....3 f-35 are manufactured per month and going to make 20 aircraft per month by 2019..can we atleast make two squadron per year by 2018?

Public sectors have the right to be useless. i was listening to the director of factory where Dhanush Gun is prepared. He told the they have the capacity to manufacture 1 gun right now and that shall be increased to 3. On other hand I listened to Baba kalyani who offered 1 gun every alternate day.