ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Anikastha]

WTF?? MK2 is scrapped!!! If not then DFI should complaint to TOI about their shoddy reporting and ask for retraction.

Can we do that officially?
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[ersakthivel]

WTF?? MK2 is scrapped!!! If not then DFI should complaint to TOI about their shoddy reporting and ask for retraction.

If we have to complain about fake reports to TOI, then we have to stand in Q in front of TOI through out our life,

All of rajat pandit's articles on tejas and other indigenous stuff is turning TOI into TOIlet.

Dont worry, it was not for nothing modi pulled manohar Parrikar away from Goa to Delhi, no turdit or TOIlet is going to fool him even if they tried through out their life!!!

When all the IAF top guns were fooling lay indian public with the "No plan B for rafale" rubbish which made french sit on the top, and consistently called tejas mk1 subpar,

Manohar Parrikar boldly announced that Super Sukhoi upgraded Su-30 MKi is the plan B and simply pulled the IAF top brass by the scruff of their neck into seeing some commonsense by making them ordr 120 mk1, 1As,

having Parrikar as Dm is the best decision of Modi, yielding 120 tejas mk1s and mk1As seeding the military aerospace future of india,

No import lobby jounos like turdit can ever do anything to stop it.

Interesting thing is how Parrikar is going to solve the FRCV-Arjun mk2 imbroglio unleashed by IA's DGMF.

 

[Illusive]

Can we do that officially?
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Why not, we can share such shoddy reporting in twitter and facebook also, who knows, we might get more Indians joining DFI in the process :biggrin2:

 

[Yumdoot]

LCA Mk-2 is not dependent on the IAF leadership in any way or form. IAF leadership had merely cottoned onto that idea. It is Indian Navy's money that is powering LCA Mk-2.

Do you really believe Cmdr. C. D. Balaji would allow tangential people to mess around with Navy's projects.

IAF should be free to drop their own share of LCA Mk-2. What they seem to be trying is to bet against the DRDO weakness of 1/3rd the normal budget and shortage of 2000 engineers by today's requirements. This they think they will be able to do by saddling DRDO with multiple long gestation projects without being allowed to focus on the prime and obvious projects.

And all this just to ensure that the option to import 10 years from hence remains open, presumably by that time the Nuevo-Congress aka AAP would be in power.

Actually we should have started the AMCA as a Navy project too. IAF should have been given a version of it with just the under-carriage changed.

 

[Illusive]

If we have to complain about fake reports to TOI, then we have to stand in Q in front of TOI through out our life,
All of rajat pandit's article article on tejas is turning TOI into TOIlet.

At Least we can try http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/feedback.cms

 

[ersakthivel]

At Least we can try http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/feedback.cms

More than 70 percent of TOI news is twisted facts to suit their particular interests, All of indian MSM are sold out souls, If you want a reality check go for Social media to know the truth.

It is not for nothing that mainstream media goons are frothing at their mouth about the revealations of their fraud.

 

[Illusive]

Actually we should have started the AMCA as a Navy project too. IAF should have been given a version of it with just the under-carriage changed.

This, considering we would need 5th gen carrier aircraft anyway and its much more difficult and time consuming to make a naval aircraft. Working in tandem should have been the goal but its would be a mess.

 

[A chauhan]

More than 70 percent of TOI news is twisted facts to suit their particular interests, All of indian MSM are sold out souls, If you want a reality check go for Social media to know the truth.

It is not for nothing that mainstream media goons are frothing at their mouth about the revealations of their fraud.

Lol ! yes, even thinking that any country will scrap the necessary indigenous upgrades (including AESA, better engine etc.) for a new fighter is idiotic.

 

[Illusive]

More than 70 percent of TOI news is twisted facts to suit their particular interests, All of indian MSM are sold out souls, If you want a reality check go for Social media to know the truth.

It is not for nothing that mainstream media goons are frothing at their mouth about the revealations of their fraud.

I know, but even we can use the social media too to let as many people know what kind of shoddy reporting TOI does. Share it with friends etc.

 

[ersakthivel]

LCA Mk-2 is not dependent on the IAF leadership in any way or form. IAF leadership had merely cottoned onto that idea. It is Indian Navy's money that is powering LCA Mk-2.

Do you really believe Cmdr. C. D. Balaji would allow tangential people to mess around with Navy's projects.

IAF should be free to drop their own share of LCA Mk-2. What they seem to be trying is to bet against the DRDO weakness of 1/3rd the normal budget and shortage of 2000 engineers by today's requirements. This they think they will be able to do by saddling DRDO with multiple long gestation projects without being allowed to focus on the prime and obvious projects.

And all this just to ensure that the option to import 10 years from hence remains open, presumably by that time the Nuevo-Congress aka AAP would be in power.

Actually we should have started the AMCA as a Navy project too. IAF should have been given a version of it with just the under-carriage changed.

IAF tejas mk2 is needed, Only people who oppose it are import lobby in india,

Till we get AMCA and FGFA in full compliments for IAF to maintain 45 squadrons of effective combat strength we need the Mig-29s, Su-30 MKis, modernized mirage-2000s and tejas mk1, 1A and 2s, in what ever numbers we can produce.

 

[ersakthivel]

I know, but even we can use the social media too to let as many people know what kind of shoddy reporting TOI does. Share it with friends etc.

Unfortunately defence news is the least followed news in india,

When these guys twist the most followed political news into which ever way they want, against the deluge of tweets from common people on twitter,there is no use in opposing their skewed coverage of defence news.

But having manohar Parrikar as DM for the next 8 years will solve everything,

You can very well remember how indian mainstream media twisted every speech of manohar parrikar a few months back leading him to openly announce he is not going to speak to the press for a while!!!

These things are done with motives, the import lobby really detest this man to the core and they will do anything through the media to shunt him out creating non existing controversies.

Unfortunately MSM cant find any taint on either Parrikar or Modi, so their job wont be done.

 

[pmaitra]

@A chauhan,

I did the formatting for you. Let me know if you would like a different font for your post.

Coming to Rafale, yes, that is what I meant, and I should have been clearer. I think India should get 36 Rafales off the shelf.

 

[San-E]

Can LCA Tejas do a 90 Degree vertical climb right after a take-off ...

 

[PaliwalWarrior]

Can LCA Tejas do a 90 Degree vertical climb right after a take-off ...

can such a stunt save the LCA or any other aircraft that can pull off such a one in actual real life combat situation ?

in short is it necesaary for combat survival ?

 

[San-E]

can such a stunt save the LCA or any other aircraft that can pull off such a one in actual real life combat situation ?

in short is it necesaary for combat survival ?

But the question is still same can tejas do this as a light combat aircraft

 

[jackprince]

Don't know if it was posted before. Anyway, fron 7.00 inwards you'd see how the import lobby tried to derail Tejas peogram even before 1st flight!

@mods @pmaitra @sob @tarunraju @Sakal Gharelu Ustad

Made a oopsie. Please move the post in Tejas thread.

 

[Sunnytheworm]

Is it possible for tejas 1 A to loose 1 ton weight so easily? Is it so easy remove over engineered parts n 300 k from nose in 6 months or a year. I don't think it will b any lighter. It will only have ew suite n jammer on tejas 1.

 

[Jagdish58]

Do we have GE-404 engines in number , is the production line still active ?? or is the on order

@ersakthivel & @PaliwalWarrior can you guys shed some light

 

[Yumdoot]

There are so many proposals floating about that it is hard to say what is for real.

F-16IN make in India (which has a F-110 engine)
LCA Mk-1 with F-404
LCA Mk-1A with Kaveri
LCA Mk-1A with F-404
F-404 make in India with the full line getting imported

Which makes for more engines on offer than aircrafts :biggrin2:

Assembly lines on offer are themselves are more than the aircrafts:
SAAB collaborated assembly line
HAL ekla chalo assembly line - 3 varying proposals (Mk-1 only already there, Mk-1A proposed, Mk-2 yet to come)
F-16IN imported assembly line


My guess is that IAF honchos are trying to act all congressi now. Probably somebody sensed some opportunity importing engine production lines this time. Bacchon ko H-1B mil jayega.

See Modi has very limited options on this.

Either:

1) He ends all this proposal-giri. It has been allowed to go too far now. Somebody has got to expose all the proposers in public and set a precedence by forcing everybody to eat Khichdi. Good for digestive system. IAF honchos need it and some outside the IAF too may need it.

OR

2) Keep threatening the enemies of India with lesser and lesser in hand, each passing day.


The outlier possiblities are that:
1) Modi will be successful in gaming the IAF leadership. An year down the line he will present IAF with a fait accompli.

OR

2) IAF will be successful in gaming Modi. An year down the line F-35 JSF will be announced with the new POTUS making his way to Delhi for a Chai-pe-charcha with Modi.

One has glory for Modi written all over.

Another one has cheers from his money bags but will most likely piss off the real 'Make In India' crowd since entry of JSF into IAF would mean Bye Bye Vietnam for all of Indian aviation in future.

 

[PaliwalWarrior]

But the question is still same can tejas do this as a light combat aircraft

it is immaterial except foe aerobatic WOW display

Su flanker family can do a cobra stunt

but can they pull it off in combat situation and then survive to tell the tale ?

will it be a factor of survivaal or will it make the difference between survival & death in a comabt situation?


in the same apply the same logic to what you are suggesting or asking from tejas