ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Neeraj Mathur]

Nope. I don't know.

no problem

some news channel are saying tejas "got" and some "in process of getting" the clearance

useless indian media

 

[ersakthivel]

no problem

some news channel are saying tejas "got" and some "in process of getting" the clearance

useless indian media

Key test for indigenous light combat aircraft Tejas today - The Times of India

Which key test today?

only the reporter and his grandfather knows that!!!!!!

rajat pandit of TOI is the captain of this gang, repeatedly saying that

it will be battle ready only in 2015 ,

it is thirty years late (20 yearsto make according to DG of DRDO, so how come it becomes thirty years late is only a mad man can understand),

fit to replace only the obsolete Migs and nothing less (it is a true multi role or swing role or omni role or whatever you call it with a decent range comparable to MIG-29, Mirage-2000 in most of the specs opposed to Mig-21 which is a very limited fighter with no radar worth to write about, dangerous crash record,very low weapon load, and very low range )

and all the BS.

but these report clearly says this fighter is battle ready by none other than the most experienced test pilot on the program Group Captain Suneeth Krishna in the photo below!!!!!

Also Suneet krishna says it will be continuously improved even after FOC. So Rajat pandit will call it never battle ready since it is being improved,

So it will be complete and battle ready only when it retires from service i suppose.

These guys will completely ignore the record low cost it comes to IAf with all the tech of 4.5th gen fighters currently in market along with the significant contribution it made to the improvement of all IAF fighters present in the fleet now.

papering over this crucial factor they will continue to write that it has overshot it's program cost by 300 percent in the most dumb headed manner possible misleading the whole nation in the process!!!!!

tejas also built up a database and design expertise that will benefit all future fighter programs of India including the AMCA as said by DG of ADA is completely ignored by them.

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

Key test for indigenous light combat aircraft Tejas today - The Times of India

Which key test today?

only the reporter and his grandfather knows that!!!!!!

rajat pandit of TOI is the captain of this gang.

thats what i dont like

copying news from other channels, incomplete news, etc
every one is not fully aware about everything, these people should explain everything thing so that everyone can understand.

 

[ersakthivel]

thats what i dont like

copying news from other channels, incomplete news, etc
every one is not fully aware about everything, these people should explain everything thing so that everyone can understand.

No it is not impossible for them to not to know it.Since the TARMAK007 blog author gets every thing correct there is no way these guys are ignorant about these simple facts considering the enormous resources they have at their hand,
They know all these and continue to write the other way,
maligning the indigenous effort in each and every possible manner,
there is a method behind this madness, a purpose they serve, which is not hard to understand

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

No it is not impossible for them to not to know it.Since the TARMAK007 blog author gets every thing correct there is no way these guys are ignorant about these simple facts considering the enormous resources they have at their hand,
They know all these and continue to write the other way,
maligning the indigenous effort in each and every possible manner,
there is a method behind this madness, a purpose they serve, which is not hard to understand

yup i agree with you

they never support indigenous effort

 

[rvjpheonix]

Interview being shown on DD news,Atleast was being shown

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Time For Eye Candy >>

 

[A chauhan]

Browne said to ndtv that IAF will have 2 squadrons of LCA mark I and 4 squadrons of mark II.

 

[mehrotraprince]

Browne said to ndtv that IAF will have 2 squadrons of LCA mark I and 4 squadrons of mark II.

That means just 96 (4 X 24) more, this is pathetic. So tejas is not going to cross 200 milestone.
(40+8) MK 1 + 96 MK 2 = 144 for IAF and around 48 (max) for navy. Total will still be less than 200.
What they need a 7th generation aircraft to replace 200+ Mig 21's?

 

[Defcon 1]

That means just 96 (4 X 24) more, this is pathetic. So tejas is not going to cross 200 milestone.
(40+8) MK 1 + 96 MK 2 = 144 for IAF and around 48 (max) for navy. Total will still be less than 200.
What they need a 7th generation aircraft to replace 200+ Mig 21's?

A Tejas squadron will consist of 21 aircraft (not 24)
- 18 fighters
- 1 aircraft in servicing
- 1 trainer
- 1 standby aircraft

8 LSPs will not be inducted into service. IAF has already said that. Total demand for IAF Tejas is 40(mk 1) +83 (mk 2)=123
In future further orders are possible.

 

[ersakthivel]

That means just 96 (4 X 24) more, this is pathetic. So tejas is not going to cross 200 milestone.
(40+8) MK 1 + 96 MK 2 = 144 for IAF and around 48 (max) for navy. Total will still be less than 200.
What they need a 7th generation aircraft to replace 200+ Mig 21's?

When the HAL asked for 1500 cr to set up a production facility to churn out more than 20 tejas per annum the MOD meakly provided 400 cr to set up a 8 fighter per year production facility!!!!!!

What happened to the tons of crocodile tears shed over the death of Mig-21 pilots in accidents over the years, our retired IAF folks all over the net with their allied bloggers were baying for the blood of HAl and ADA for that,

But when a replacement ten times more potent than Mig-21 stares in their face they are acting coy with the numbers,

Now HAL chief is repeating like a parrot that production can easily be increased to 20 plus per year after,"CONSULTAIONS WITH IAF and MOD"!!!!!.

What happened to the consultations till now, Hope it does not go the way of pliatus vs HTT-40 consultations.

We need the new govt after elections to get clarity on numbers,certainly this outgoing govt is in no mood to take decisions in a hurry,


Other than pliatus there is nothing our present IAF chief likes in IAF.

Why he even went on record saying that within a decade he can pull out a MMRCA winner class rabbit out of his Base Repair Depot hat a few weeks before,(promptly refuted by his deputy of course,)

By the grace of God our present airchief is retiring soon,

Any way wait till mk-2 comes and we will know the real number.

And if the mystery over MMRCA delay deepens we can see numbers far in excess of 200 with naval orders combined,
I don't know how can IAF justify the purchase of our MMRCA winner for the cost involved ,

since every air chief in the world thinks that it does not justify the price it commands in all fighter competitions till date.

Anyway with a K-10 engine at hand in a few years time it sure can get a significant slice of the replacement market for thousands of Mig-21s and Mirage-2000s all over the world,

Airchiefs of those nations are not sitting upon multi billion dollar budgets like our Airchief,

that is where the real effort should focus on,

So mercifuly the fate of future tejas mk-2 and mk-3 versions are not dependent upon the whims and fancies of our IAF chiefs,

we have already seen the same sad old tale in Arjun, Hope it does not repeat here,

tejas platform suffers no performance short fall if we consider the cost needed to raise an equivalent fleet to defend our skies,And in dollar terms it's cost will continue to reduce as our Rupee continues to decline, the opposite is true for costly imported fighters which too have the same capability.

 

[rvjpheonix]

That means just 96 (4 X 24) more, this is pathetic. So tejas is not going to cross 200 milestone.
(40+8) MK 1 + 96 MK 2 = 144 for IAF and around 48 (max) for navy. Total will still be less than 200.
What they need a 7th generation aircraft to replace 200+ Mig 21's?

I am sure once the IAF gets its hands on the fighter it will change its view about indigenous products.You should have seen the air chief's interview. There was no pride or excitement whatsoever. When the correspondent asked how it fares against other contemporary aircraft he starts beating around the bush and says that it is made according to the ASR and all. Why cant he just say it holds its own and is a great fighter for its price and is a force multiplier!!Anyway there are 250 migs to replace and all of them cant be replaced with flankers.I guess it all depends on the Rafale deal.These might be the plans if it goes through because according to him there is no back up plan! If it does not then the obvious choice will be tejas.

 

[sayareakd]

They have played with the security of our country. Such type of people should be send to labour camps.

 

[mehrotraprince]

A Tejas squadron will consist of 21 aircraft (not 24)
- 18 fighters
- 1 aircraft in servicing
- 1 trainer
- 1 standby aircraft

8 LSPs will not be inducted into service. IAF has already said that. Total demand for IAF Tejas is 40(mk 1) +83 (mk 2)=123
In future further orders are possible.

Not just LSP's but also SP-1 and SP-2 also.

The first two aircraft (SP-1, SP-2) might not meet our standards for squadron formation as the metal cutting and hardware were done before we froze the IOC-2 test points. We will raise the first Tejas squadron with four aircraft starting from SP-3 to SP-6," a top source said.

Tejas Induction into Air Force to Take More Time - The New Indian Express

 

[p2prada]

Yes, the SP-3 and SP-4 will be ready only in July or August next year. That's 6 months after IOC as I had already mentioned before.

The SP-1 and SP-2 were supposed to have been delivered in July 2011, so the 2 jets are quite old in that respect.

 

[sayareakd]

Rajat Pandit of TOI may not be aware that SU30MK were not battle ready when inducted into IAF. Thanks to IAF LCA is battle ready.

 

[ersakthivel]

They have played with the security of our country. Such type of people should be send to labour camps.

Retiring IAF has no love lost for tejas platform in the same way retiring IA has for Arjun,

But they will be prepared to shell out 40 million dollar per piece for whatever residual life left on the two decades old Mirage-2000 which will have less TWR and lower long range BVR and radar specs,

this deal if axed will give another 40 tejas mk-2 fighters to IAf which will beat,"upgraded " Mirage -2000s by many miles.

but who cares?

They only like foreign platforms which by bleeding our defence budget decrease our overall capacity .

And our top civilian political defence decision makers will oblige them, reasons are not far to seek.

but if you ask the 100s of pilots chained to obsolete around 300 in number various platform of Migs and mirages , the opinion will be radically different.

 

[mehrotraprince]

A Tejas squadron will consist of 21 aircraft (not 24)
- 18 fighters
- 1 aircraft in servicing
- 1 trainer
- 1 standby aircraft

In squadron formation there is nothing like 1 in servicing, or 1 in standby mode, its purely on the basis of single seaters + trainers.

If you go by IAF's definition which they are following for Su-30's or Mig-21's then its 16+2=18 aircraft's. But then why the hell they ordered 40 MK 1?
They should have ordered 32 + 4 = just 36 aircraft's, but that's not true. Its too confusing

 

[ersakthivel]

Rajat Pandit of TOI may not be aware that SU30MK were not battle ready when inducted into IAF. Thanks to IAF LCA is battle ready.

The 40 were never battle ready and sold off to Algeria after IAf returned them without even weaponization after a decade.

 

[Patriot]

They have played with the security of our country. Such type of people should be send to labour camps.

Unfortunately we do not have designated labour camps but now the need is there to create some, for special kind of people.