ADA Tejas (LCA) News and Discussions

[Rahul Singh]

Re: ADA LCA Tejas Mark-II

^^^ Its less, beyond this would never be known.

 

[p2prada]

Re: ADA LCA Tejas Mark-II

Where does Tejas RCA stand compared to Bison?

RCA : Remote controlled aircraft??? :shocked:

LCA's RCS is many times smaller than Bison's.

 

[arnabmit]

Re: ADA LCA Tejas Mark-II

Oops... Typo.

In that video where the red flag usaf guy said a lot about IAF abilities, he had claimed that the bison was almost invisible to all US aircrafts except the F-22.

Now if Tejas RCS is less than Bison, just wondering...

RCA : Remote controlled aircraft??? :shocked:

LCA's RCS is many times smaller than Bison's.

 

[p2prada]

Re: ADA LCA Tejas Mark-II

Oops... Typo.

In that video where the red flag usaf guy said a lot about IAF abilities, he had claimed that the bison was almost invisible to all US aircrafts except the F-22.

Now if Tejas RCS is less than Bison, just wondering...

He never said that the Bisons were invisible to "all" radars. He said that the Bisons carrying a good jammer "managed" to come into merge with the F-15, that's a big difference. In a mano-a-mano, Bison stands no chance against the F-15 in both BVR and WVR.

During CI-2004, the Bisons were acting as escorts to the Mig-27s while the other aircraft provided air superiority cover.

Legacy 70s radar + more modern Israeli jammer + Bisons were not emitting for radar lock+ F-15s were already fighting other aircraft while the Bisons came in to merge with R-77 seeker heads used for locks.

This combination won't stand today.

 

[Rahul Singh]

Re: ADA LCA Tejas Mark-II

Other thing that in future ADA and HAL can work out a mega up-gradation plan for LCA with reshaped nose section, resurfacing with RAS, DSI (if needed), internal weapon bays under wing root cavity for one BVRAAM on each mount and enclosed podded weapon bays.........Silent LCA if you may.

Given work done at least there is a possibility for such radical upgradation.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Re: ADA LCA Tejas Mark-II

Tejas MK-1 are silenced death for many 4.5gen fighters even a challenge for 5th generation..

Tejas MK-1 employs stealth with very effective Within Visual Range Systems ( R-73 with DASH HMD & ECM Pod) and Beyond visual range System ( DRDO Radar with Astra, Debry ), Its a formidable fighter..

 

[rohit b3]

I dont understand why Mig-21s are even compared with Tejas.

Tejas is a totally high tech 4th generation aircraft with a few shortcomings. It is a semi stealth Aircraft with less than 1 sqm Rcs

Anyways, which aircraft does not have any short coming? Look at the Su-30MKI with it's abnormally huge RCs. It is always some short coming of the Indian equipements where controversies are made from.

Anyways, even if the enemy has moved to a 5th gen, we cant call our 4.5th gen fleet as "useless".

 

[p2prada]

Re: ADA LCA Tejas Mark-II

Besides it is other thing that in future ADA and HAL can work out a mega upgradation plan for LCA with reshaped nose section, resurfacing with RAS, DSI (if needed), internal weapon bays under wing root cavity for one BVRAAM on each mount and enclosed podded weapon bays.........Silent LCA if you may.

Impossible on a single engine aircraft of this size. Would have been possible if the fuselage was at least twice as big. Now the hydraulics for the weapons bay itself will take over most of the avionics space on LCA, apart from adding unnecessary weight for the hydraulics and the doors.

EWPs will be heavy and incredibly draggy. LCA won't go supersonic even when carrying air to air loads. It will become worthless even as a point defense aircraft.

Given work done at least there is a possibility for such radical upgradation.

Impossible for LCA.

 

[Decklander]

@Kunaal, you shud not have posted the Imarat RCS facility pix even though they were available on net.

 

[SilentKiller]

Close Pictures Of Tejas PV-3`s R-73 Missle and GSH-23-Twin Gun..

Sir, Where is the gun, could you help me in pointing to it?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

It was released by MOD itself, Anyways..

I will keep that in mind, And will keep out sensitive knowledge..

@Kunaal, you shud not have posted the Imarat RCS facility pix even though they were available on net.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Right Under the Left Air Intake, lies GSH-23mm canon manufactured in India at OFB.

Sir, Where is the gun, could you help me in pointing to it?

 

[Rahul Singh]

Re: ADA LCA Tejas Mark-II

Impossible on a single engine aircraft of this size. Would have been possible if the fuselage was at least twice as big. Now the hydraulics for the weapons bay itself will take over most of the avionics space on LCA, apart from adding unnecessary weight for the hydraulics and the doors.

EWPs will be heavy and incredibly draggy. LCA won't go supersonic even when carrying air to air loads. It will become worthless even as a point defense aircraft.



Impossible for LCA.

Induction of greater drag? True. Impossible? Not at all. Anyway that's for internal weapon bay and podded weapons, but won't F-414 will will have ample thrust? Ok lets leave it for future.

Rest of the developments. well i don't see any reason why LCA won't get RAS when it has already been developed.

Redesigned nose section, well LCA MK-2 engine thrust is so good that any improvement of that nature is every bit possible. LCA will undergo structural weight reduction at MK-2 so even better TWR is expected.

DSI. Well only if present intake is exposing turbine.

 

[halloweene]

Whywould youfit a DSI if you have a fine working air intake without moving parts?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Tejas have Y shape intakes, its simple and effective against radar..

Or something i missed here..

 

[halloweene]

I dont think you missed anything. DSi is a nice smart solution in order to have fixed mach 2 intakes. But there are other solutions (for ex, contradictory to what is generally thought, Rafale air intakes are certified mach 2, not ram coating...). DSI + "radar blocker" will act like an S duct. oversimplifying.

Bw, did india test 5.56 Mk 262? (i know you are expert)

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Early Tejas`s Flights

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Early Tejas`s Flights

I dont think you missed anything. DSi is a nice smart solution in order to have fixed mach 2 intakes. But there are other solutions (for ex, contradictory to what is generally thought, Rafale air intakes are certified mach 2, not ram coating...). DSI + "radar blocker" will act like an S duct. oversimplifying.

Interesting..

 

[Abhi9]

beautiful video of Tejas at Ironfist


Cockpit views, Tejas firing missile and droppin LGB

amazing
[video]http://api.smugmug.com/services/embed/2465302115_pFN6nDr?albumId=28991139&albumKey=nmrgS8&width=640&height=360[/video]

 

[tramp]

i think the mmrca should be scapped in favour of tejas mk2 and super su-30mki

There is this very handy saying: In an emergency borrowed teeth and no match for one's own gums.