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wait for kaverion red part true.
on blue= forget it
wait for kaverion red part true.
on blue= forget it
Dude though I am not at all trying to convince you or rather it is not needed to convince you or prove you the capability of Tejas ,, neither it is needed for the tejas to prove to you but for your info Tejas have cleared 2074 test flights successfully upto March 2013,,,, Watch thisI will be convinced when it is officially inducted in IAF and navy, until then its all khayali polao
things are changing my friend.we cant develop kaveri in the past its not due to lack of technology or knowledge but due to corruption and miss managment ...lack of leadership... now its diffrent..When we can lauch to moon and mars this yeaR DO U THINK WE CANT COMEW UP WITH AC ENGINE? amca will have our own ingine... kaveri is not 100% failure its 70% success... 30 % will be rectified... drdo said it closed the project due to preasure from media and others in india.But kaveri to be intergted with Tejas mk1 for tests...Its massivly test flown in russia as well.. Kaveri engine is high tech than french engines ..It has composite meterials to decrease its weight..When it is tested success fully it will be up graded for future program like amca and older jets will be upgraded too... Aftwer all when it comes to invention Indians takes centrestage ...on red part true.
on blue= forget it
Tejas at Aero India 2013 - Tejas - India's Light Combat Aircrafton red part true.
on blue= forget it
At one-third the size of the F-22 and half the size of the EFA or Rafale, the LCA will have smallest radar cross section of any non-stealth fighter aircraft in the world (due mainly to materials composition -- 45% composite by weight, the highest of any jet fighter today.)not sure obout other 2 but Gripen is better at any cost
on red = two different thingsthings are changing my friend.we cant develop kaveri in the past its not due to lack of technology or knowledge but due to corruption and miss managment ...lack of leadership... now its diffrent..When we can lauch to moon and mars this yeaR DO U THINK WE CANT COMEW UP WITH AC ENGINE? amca will have our own ingine... kaveri is not 100% failure its 70% success... 30 % will be rectified... drdo said it closed the project due to preasure from media and others in india.But kaveri to be intergted with Tejas mk1 for tests...Its massivly test flown in russia as well.. Kaveri engine is high tech than french engines ..It has composite meterials to decrease its weight..When it is tested success fully it will be up graded for future program like amca and older jets will be upgraded too... Aftwer all when it comes to invention Indians takes centrestage ...
At one-third the size of the F-22 and half the size of the EFA or Rafale, the LCA will have smallest radar cross section of any non-stealth fighter aircraft in the world (due mainly to materials composition -- 45% composite by weight, the highest of any jet fighter today.)
The LCA also uses Radar absorbant paint... but then again so does the Gripen...
Surprisingly as I researched the Gripen is designed similar to the LCA, small and manauverable with radar absorbant paint. Since LCA is smaller than the Gripen, it will have a much lower Radar Cross Section.
The Tejas in production will carry more advanced systems and weapons, is longer range, more manoverable, and lighter than Gripen, at half the total project development costs of the latter ($1+billion v. $2.5+billion), and, here's the most significant figure: the Tejas will cost less than half as much as the Gripen whilst being significantly more advanced.
Courtesy:- Can LCA stand up to F16/Gripen??
The LCA will have smallest radar cross section of any non-stealth fighter aircraft in the world. The F-22 counts as a stealth aircraft... I used the F-22 to compare the size of the LCA not to compare the stealthiness of the two.
LCA will be able to use Russian and Western missiles. It will also be able to use the Indian missile Astra which is under development at the moment. I'm not sure what the Gripen will use, possibly the Aim-120??? or maybe the Aim-120C??? Anything below that, will mean LCA's superiority in missile armnament.
Also, for avionics, the LCA is an unstable design (meaning that it wants to be constantly going in all sorts of directions). It is controlled by a computer which changes the ailerons and other parts thousands of times a second to make the plane fly smoothly... sort of similar to to the F-16 and the F-22. The Gripen doesn't have these features making LCA superior if you are checking for maneuverability.
Well ajay, first of all, we are comparing the Gripen and the LCA not the EuroFighter... The EuroFighter is a whole different story (the LCA might have a smaller RCS than the EF aswell... but lets stick with the Gripen for now...) The LCA will definetly have a smaller RCS than the Gripen. The LCA's RCS is one of it's trademarks. The smaller the plane, the smaller the RCS. The Gripen happens to be bigger than the LCA and the designers of the Gripen haven't done anything special to make the RCS smaller for the Gripen. THE FACT IS, LCA's RCS WILL BE MUCH LESS THAN THE GRIPEN's!!! The F-22's engineers gave the F-22 a smaller RCS by pointing the F-22's radar at a certain angle. The Gripen has no special work done on it to decrease it's RCS.
And above all if you know sumthing abt aircrafts then compare it urslf,,,
Tejas:-
General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 13.20 m (43 ft 4 in)
Wingspan: 8.20 m (26 ft 11 in)
Height: 4.40 m (14 ft 9 in)
Wing area: 38.4 m² (413 ft²)
Empty weight: 6,500 kg (14,300 lb)
Loaded weight: 9,500 kg (20,944 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 13,300 kg (29,100 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × F404-GE-IN20 turbofan
Dry thrust: 53.9 kN[88] (12,100 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner: 85 kN[89][90][91] (19,000 lbf)
Internal fuel capacity: 2,458 kg
External fuel capacity: 2 x 1,200 litre drop tank at inboard, 1 x 725-litre drop tank under fuselage
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 1.6[85] (1,350 km/h) ; (CAS) at high altitude
Range: 850 km[citation needed] (530 mi) without refuelling
Combat radius: 300 km[citation needed] (186 miles)
Ferry range: 3,000 km[92] (1,840 mi)
Service ceiling: 15,250 m[93] (50,000 ft)
Wing loading: 247 kg/m² (50.7 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 1.07[85]
g-limits: +8/−3.5 g[85]
Armament
Guns: 1× mounted 23 mm twin-barrel GSh-23 cannon with 220 rounds of ammunition.
Hardpoints: 8 total: 1× beneath the port-side intake trunk for targeting pods, 6× under-wing, and 1× under-fuselage with a capacity of 4,000 kg external fuel and ordnance
Missiles:
HAL Tejas carrying R-73 missile and Drop Tank.
Tejas weapon display Aero India 2011
Air-to-air missiles:
Python 5
Derby[97]
Astra Beyond Visual Range missile
Vympel R-77
Vympel R-73
Air-to-surface missiles:
Kh-59ME (TV guided standoff Missile)
Kh-59MK (Laser guided standoff Missile)
Anti-ship missiles
Kh-35
Kh-31
Bombs:
[94]
KAB-1500L laser-guided bombs
GBU-16 Paveway II
FAB-250
ODAB-500PM fuel-air explosives
ZAB-250/350 incendiary bombs
BetAB-500Shp powered concrete-piercing bombs
FAB-500T dumb bombs
OFAB-250-270 dumb bombs
OFAB-100-120 dumb bombs
RBK-500 cluster bomb stake
Others:[94]
S-8 rocket pods
Bofors 135 mm rocket
Drop tanks for ferry flight/extended range/loitering time.
LITENING targeting pod[95][96]
Gripen:-
General characteristics
Crew: 1 (2 for JAS 39D)
Payload: 5,300 kg ()
Length: 14.1 m (46 ft 3 in), two-seater: 14.8 m (48 ft 5 in)
Wingspan: 8.4 m (27 ft 7 in)
Height: 4.5 m (14 ft 9 in)
Wing area: 30.0 m² (323 ft²)
Empty weight: 6,800 kg[183] (12,600 lb)
Loaded weight: 8,500 kg (18,700 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 14,000 kg (31,000 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Volvo Aero RM12 afterburning turbofan
Dry thrust: 54 kN (12,100 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner: 80.5 kN (18,100 lbf)
Wheel track: 2.4 m (7 ft 10 in)
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 2 (2,204 km/h, 1,372 mph) at altitude
Combat radius: 800 km (500 mi, 432 nmi)
Ferry range: 3,200 km (2,000 mi) with drop tanks
Service ceiling: 15,240 m (50,000 ft)
Wing loading: 283 kg/m² (58 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 0.97
Armament
Guns: 1 × 27 mm Mauser BK-27 Revolver cannon with 120 rounds (only available on single-seat A/C model)
Hardpoints: 8 (three on each wing and two under fuselage) and provisions to carry combinations of:
Rockets: 4× rocket pods 13.5 cm rockets
Missiles:
6× Rb.74 (AIM-9) or Rb 98 (IRIS-T)
4× Rb.99 (AIM-120) or MICA
4× Rb.71 (Skyflash) or Meteor
4× Rb.75
2× KEPD.350
2× Rbs.15F anti-ship missile
Bombs:
4× GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bomb
2× Bk.90 cluster bomb
8× Mark 82 bombs
Now see the armaments section ,,, you wud find huge difference LCA cracks Gripen in this section,,,
And then keep an eye in the General characteristics where u wud find Gripen to be much more heavy and big so less stealthy..
as @<a href="http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/member.php?u=4163" target="_blank">Kunal Biswas</a> Da said it has some laggings regarding Gripen those are in the section of performance ,,,,
nice review thanks. but tejas might be small but rcs is more... and u cant campare f22 stealth or rafales with tejas... thank u rest r fine and great...At one-third the size of the F-22 and half the size of the EFA or Rafale, the LCA will have smallest radar cross section of any non-stealth fighter aircraft in the world (due mainly to materials composition -- 45% composite by weight, the highest of any jet fighter today.)
The LCA also uses Radar absorbant paint... but then again so does the Gripen...
Surprisingly as I researched the Gripen is designed similar to the LCA, small and manauverable with radar absorbant paint. Since LCA is smaller than the Gripen, it will have a much lower Radar Cross Section.
The Tejas in production will carry more advanced systems and weapons, is longer range, more manoverable, and lighter than Gripen, at half the total project development costs of the latter ($1+billion v. $2.5+billion), and, here's the most significant figure: the Tejas will cost less than half as much as the Gripen whilst being significantly more advanced.
Courtesy:- Can LCA stand up to F16/Gripen??
The LCA will have smallest radar cross section of any non-stealth fighter aircraft in the world. The F-22 counts as a stealth aircraft... I used the F-22 to compare the size of the LCA not to compare the stealthiness of the two.
LCA will be able to use Russian and Western missiles. It will also be able to use the Indian missile Astra which is under development at the moment. I'm not sure what the Gripen will use, possibly the Aim-120??? or maybe the Aim-120C??? Anything below that, will mean LCA's superiority in missile armnament.
Also, for avionics, the LCA is an unstable design (meaning that it wants to be constantly going in all sorts of directions). It is controlled by a computer which changes the ailerons and other parts thousands of times a second to make the plane fly smoothly... sort of similar to to the F-16 and the F-22. The Gripen doesn't have these features making LCA superior if you are checking for maneuverability.
Well ajay, first of all, we are comparing the Gripen and the LCA not the EuroFighter... The EuroFighter is a whole different story (the LCA might have a smaller RCS than the EF aswell... but lets stick with the Gripen for now...) The LCA will definetly have a smaller RCS than the Gripen. The LCA's RCS is one of it's trademarks. The smaller the plane, the smaller the RCS. The Gripen happens to be bigger than the LCA and the designers of the Gripen haven't done anything special to make the RCS smaller for the Gripen. THE FACT IS, LCA's RCS WILL BE MUCH LESS THAN THE GRIPEN's!!! The F-22's engineers gave the F-22 a smaller RCS by pointing the F-22's radar at a certain angle. The Gripen has no special work done on it to decrease it's RCS.
And above all if you know sumthing abt aircrafts then compare it urslf,,,
Tejas:-
General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 13.20 m (43 ft 4 in)
Wingspan: 8.20 m (26 ft 11 in)
Height: 4.40 m (14 ft 9 in)
Wing area: 38.4 m² (413 ft²)
Empty weight: 6,500 kg (14,300 lb)
Loaded weight: 9,500 kg (20,944 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 13,300 kg (29,100 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × F404-GE-IN20 turbofan
Dry thrust: 53.9 kN[88] (12,100 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner: 85 kN[89][90][91] (19,000 lbf)
Internal fuel capacity: 2,458 kg
External fuel capacity: 2 x 1,200 litre drop tank at inboard, 1 x 725-litre drop tank under fuselage
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 1.6[85] (1,350 km/h) ; (CAS) at high altitude
Range: 850 km[citation needed] (530 mi) without refuelling
Combat radius: 300 km[citation needed] (186 miles)
Ferry range: 3,000 km[92] (1,840 mi)
Service ceiling: 15,250 m[93] (50,000 ft)
Wing loading: 247 kg/m² (50.7 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 1.07[85]
g-limits: +8/−3.5 g[85]
Armament
Guns: 1× mounted 23 mm twin-barrel GSh-23 cannon with 220 rounds of ammunition.
Hardpoints: 8 total: 1× beneath the port-side intake trunk for targeting pods, 6× under-wing, and 1× under-fuselage with a capacity of 4,000 kg external fuel and ordnance
Missiles:
HAL Tejas carrying R-73 missile and Drop Tank.
Tejas weapon display Aero India 2011
Air-to-air missiles:
Python 5
Derby[97]
Astra Beyond Visual Range missile
Vympel R-77
Vympel R-73
Air-to-surface missiles:
Kh-59ME (TV guided standoff Missile)
Kh-59MK (Laser guided standoff Missile)
Anti-ship missiles
Kh-35
Kh-31
Bombs:
[94]
KAB-1500L laser-guided bombs
GBU-16 Paveway II
FAB-250
ODAB-500PM fuel-air explosives
ZAB-250/350 incendiary bombs
BetAB-500Shp powered concrete-piercing bombs
FAB-500T dumb bombs
OFAB-250-270 dumb bombs
OFAB-100-120 dumb bombs
RBK-500 cluster bomb stake
Others:[94]
S-8 rocket pods
Bofors 135 mm rocket
Drop tanks for ferry flight/extended range/loitering time.
LITENING targeting pod[95][96]
Gripen:-
General characteristics
Crew: 1 (2 for JAS 39D)
Payload: 5,300 kg ()
Length: 14.1 m (46 ft 3 in), two-seater: 14.8 m (48 ft 5 in)
Wingspan: 8.4 m (27 ft 7 in)
Height: 4.5 m (14 ft 9 in)
Wing area: 30.0 m² (323 ft²)
Empty weight: 6,800 kg[183] (12,600 lb)
Loaded weight: 8,500 kg (18,700 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 14,000 kg (31,000 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Volvo Aero RM12 afterburning turbofan
Dry thrust: 54 kN (12,100 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner: 80.5 kN (18,100 lbf)
Wheel track: 2.4 m (7 ft 10 in)
Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 2 (2,204 km/h, 1,372 mph) at altitude
Combat radius: 800 km (500 mi, 432 nmi)
Ferry range: 3,200 km (2,000 mi) with drop tanks
Service ceiling: 15,240 m (50,000 ft)
Wing loading: 283 kg/m² (58 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 0.97
Armament
Guns: 1 × 27 mm Mauser BK-27 Revolver cannon with 120 rounds (only available on single-seat A/C model)
Hardpoints: 8 (three on each wing and two under fuselage) and provisions to carry combinations of:
Rockets: 4× rocket pods 13.5 cm rockets
Missiles:
6× Rb.74 (AIM-9) or Rb 98 (IRIS-T)
4× Rb.99 (AIM-120) or MICA
4× Rb.71 (Skyflash) or Meteor
4× Rb.75
2× KEPD.350
2× Rbs.15F anti-ship missile
Bombs:
4× GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bomb
2× Bk.90 cluster bomb
8× Mark 82 bombs
Now see the armaments section ,,, you wud find huge difference LCA cracks Gripen in this section,,,
And then keep an eye in the General characteristics where u wud find Gripen to be much more heavy and big so less stealthy..
as @Kunal Biswas Da said it has some laggings regarding Gripen those are in the section of performance ,,,,
Yeah I know that, The original author of this post also knws that,,, perhaps if u read the post thoroughly u will see there is written "The F-22 counts as a stealth aircraft... I used the F-22 to compare the size of the LCA not to compare the stealthiness of the two."nice review thanks. but tejas might be small but rcs is more... and u cant campare f22 stealth or rafales with tejas... thank u rest r fine and great...
Thanxx @Blackwater for comparing me with one of the greatest villains of the world,,SHOM, SHOM SHAMO SHASHA...
is the RCS of tejas more than that of gripen?????? I read the opposite,,,, plzz clarifynice review thanks. but tejas might be small but rcs is more... and u cant campare f22 stealth or rafales with tejas... thank u rest r fine and great...
f22 is 5th gen fighter advanced than f35sYeah I know that, The original author of this post also knws that,,, perhaps if u read the post thoroughly u will see there is written "The F-22 counts as a stealth aircraft... I used the F-22 to compare the size of the LCA not to compare the stealthiness of the two."
I got this figure ,, the RCS of Tejas is0.6m²is the RCS of tejas more than that of gripen?????? I read the opposite,,,, plzz clarify
Both of them are 5th gen aircrafts mate,,,,f22 is 5th gen fighter advanced than f35s
Shameful my foot i don't give a damn about that monkey nor u , i will never report on any one i will handle things on my ownI think your infraction is well suited,I will hand ban anyone doing this again, ersakthivel is one of the most knowledgeable person here regarding LCA on this forum instead of insulting him try to learn something from him, the chap spend time and his resource for you guys, respect that, this kind of nonsense is shameful ..
Hi im not afraid of consequence or being permanently blocked , talking about personal attack u MODS & Seniors show double standards in the same thread i was victim of personal attack by , see below but those post are still alive what ever i have posted in retaliation is been deleted@Sam
If you persist, action will have to be be taken.
Let us keep the discussion clean and in a language of civilised people.
Ray
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