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I've always wondered, when they feel the need to defend minority religions like Islam, why is it that Hinduism doesn't get included into the woke category. I've always seen Hinduphobia from western liberals even before the whole Islamic terrorism phenomenon.
Because it needs a low IQ population for them to be used. If they cultivate and provoke Muslims in the name of religion, they know there's a higher reward on that investment on account of their iodine deficiency.

Hindu ko suicide bomber bana doge toh wo banega kya? when Hindus show readiness to do those things, they also got support (i.e Naxals and LTTE) in the past. But even in those cases, they had to convert to Christianity first, so the low-IQ criteria has to be fulfilled by one way or other. There are no suicide bombers shouting 'Krishna hu Akbar', so Hindus are bad pawns in that regard. Abrahamics are more amenable to become cannon fodder. Hitler used them in WW. Britain used them against India for divide-and-rule; US used them in all their Cold War proxies. Russia and India used them in the Northern Alliance.

This is a sub-human population born only to scavenge on the scraps thrown by other cultures because it has no civilizational basis of its own. Hindus, Russians, Jews, Persians, Chinese each have their own ethnic culture. "Muslims" are just low quality discards from within those cultures who have caught the virus due to low immunity to bullshit. Everyone wants a useful idiot population they can control. What the West hasn't experienced, unlike India, is that when you cultivate these zombies for short term goals, you often get your fingers burnt in the long term, like India's courting of the Muslim league in 47. All the Brits sitting back and sipping tea watching Muslims attack the Indian embassy in London now will understand the consequences later when the same crowd starts molesting their girls and causing riots. Once you allow them to mobilize, they're your problem now.
 
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Obama was a total snake to us. Do you know he had persuaded manmohan and pranab to hand over Siachen to chinks and porkis. We were saved only at the last moment when V K Singh planted his foot to firmly oppose it. If not for one honest army man, that snake obama would have succeeded with his diplomatic jihad on us. While biden is not as big a jihadi as obama or hillary, he will still run his diplomatic jihad towards us.
MM was even ready to hand over Seer Creek to Pakistan. Modi opposed it firmly and asked MM to declare that he will not give seer creek to Pakistan.
 

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Because it needs a low IQ population for them to be used. If they cultivate and provoke Muslims in the name of religion, they know there's a higher reward on that investment on account of their iodine deficiency.

Hindu ko suicide bomber bana doge toh wo banega kya? when Hindus show readiness to do those things, they also got support (i.e Naxals and LTTE) in the past. But even in those cases, they had to convert to Christianity first, so the low-IQ criteria has to be fulfilled by one way or other. There are no suicide bombers shouting 'Krishna hu Akbar', so Hindus are bad pawns in that regard. Abrahamics are more amenable to become cannon fodder. Hitler used them in WW. Britain used them against India for divide-and-rule; US used them in all their Cold War proxies. Russia and India used them in the Northern Alliance.

This is a sub-human population born only to scavenge on the scraps thrown by other cultures because it has no civilizational basis of its own. Hindus, Russians, Jews, Persians, Chinese each have their own ethnic culture. "Muslims" are just low quality discards from within those cultures who have caught the virus due to low immunity to bullshit. Everyone wants a useful idiot population they can control. What the West hasn't experienced, unlike India, is that when you cultivate these zombies for short term goals, you often get your fingers burnt in the long term, like India's courting of the Muslim league in 47. All the Brits sitting back and sipping tea watching Muslims attack the Indian embassy in London now will understand the consequences later when the same crowd starts molesting their girls and causing riots. Once you allow them to mobilize, they're your problem now.
In UK, the leftist judge hands over higher punishment to Muslim pedophile because the victim was Asian.

Does that mean if the victim was a White Girl, the Muslim would have got away with lenient punishment?

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/jail-sentence-asian-shame-abuse-10075010
 

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Ofcourse Republican win is a sure shot, My question is will Trump return to power or US will have a new Republican President?
Trump will be the President, there is no other who has around 88-90% approval rating within his own party. Also The right knows that only Trumpster with a his twitchy thumbs, queens accent, unpredicatble, unfiltered abilitto hammer can keep the radical leftists, traitors, the ever growing swamp of bureaucrats, enemy of the state (MSM) and the deep state in check.

The US is deeply divided for the moment especially culturally and Trump participates actively and effectively. The only one who can guide the US through this cultural shift is Trump and by the end of his next term in 2024, hopefully the douchebag liberals, leftists, white supremacists, neocons and other fringes have been swatted down to being at the fringe. MSM and academia over the last 20 years have made the fringe the new normal, that needs to be reversed drastically.
 

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Trump will come back and India US relations shall be continued to be as it is right now.
I expect a new Indo-US trade deal in the next 2-3 quarters and the same with China. The trade balance on the US side gets better, some more defense purchases. 10 more P-8I happening (done deal), 6 Apaches for IA, Nasams-2 (done deal), 30 Predator-Bs for Tri-service needs (10 for each services), IAF also has a need for 80-100 Predator-C, potentially 39 more Apache for IA after the initial 6.
 

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The only one who can guide the US through this cultural shift is Trump and by the end of his next term in 2024, hopefully the douchebag liberals, leftists, white supremacists,
Isn't Trump too a white Supremacist?
 

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Isn't Trump too a white Supremacist?
No. At least not in the traditional sense of the word. He's an American Supremacist (someone who feels America is the greatest and needs to protect that greatness at all costs).

But in no certain terms is he a white supremacist. I've lived in the southern states. I know white nationalism and white supremacy when I see it. Trust me. Trump is not those things. His prejudices are derived from nationalistic tendencies, not racial ones.
 

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This Somalian import wants redistribution of wealth accumulated by the majority community.

How this is of relevance to us? Whatever crazy ideas starts here, if successful then it’s sent packaged in first flight to Luytens!
 

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This Somalian import wants redistribution of wealth accumulated by the majority community.

How this is of relevance to us? Whatever crazy ideas starts here, if successful then it’s sent packaged in first flight to Luytens!
When they say "white" they include Indians, Chinese and Korean
Because it's everyone else's fault Somalis and other black cultures have the lowest average IQs, no work culture or concept of fatherhood
 

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Putin and Russia's real test will come when Trump exits the office after completing his 2nd term and a Cartel Pasand president takes over the office of the presidency in the US.
In 2008, the blacks needed some reassurance so they picked Obama. In 2015, blue collared white males felt alienated so they planted a redneck to pacify them. He looks like them, quacks like them, but foreign policy remains the same. Did any of them stop supporting Pakistan? Liberals supported them in the name of developmental assistance 'for girl child education and polio eradication' (lulwut) and Republicans support them because Muslims are 'people of the book'. Excuse changes but policy remains the same. The reality is that this was ransom money to buy the loyalty of ISI. The narrative is subservient to realpolitik. India doesn't bother much with specific presidents, we deal with their trade lobby and defense lobby which is the fountainhead of their foreign policy.

Hillary has not "gone to jail" though Trump said it. These are staged battles to rile up their domestic population. They are all the same for us. A Hindu Tulsi Gabbard is not going to leak their nuclear launch codes to the local ISCKON temple, and a Christian Ben Carson would not have invaded India through Kerala, and a socialist Bernie is not going to cut trade ties for which they have negotiated 20 years. It serves Indians no good to get caught in their domestic politicking.

All the American commentators be like "Hillary was a progressive liberal, Bernie was a constitutional reformist, this one was a libertarian reformist, that one was institutional patriot, and the other one is a fiscal conservative, and the one next to him is a sustainable development evangelist, the other one is a global trade protectionist..the other one is a climate warrior" humko ghanta farak ni padta. Different heads, same hydra. It's nothing more than a reality show for entertainment of their masses, a waste of mental bandwidth to us.

Trump will be re-elected because no deep state wants to make it look like the people of America pulled the rug from under their leader who is actively engaged in a tiff with China. It would look like the state is recalling its candidate in the middle of a fight and admitting defeat. That's bad optics. The narrative will be shaped to make him win. They will get the leftie ecosystem from CNN, WaPo say something stupid to do counter-polarization in favor of Trump, just like they got Fox to run a campaign about Michelle Obama being a man and Obama being a Muslim, to garner sympathy for Obama. But it still wouldn't matter to us whether Trump gets re-elected or not.
 

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India doesn't bother much with specific presidents, we deal with their trade lobby and defense lobby which is the fountainhead of their foreign policy.
Basically because of this...

 

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Trump will be the President, there is no other who has around 88-90% approval rating within his own party. Also The right knows that only Trumpster with a his twitchy thumbs, queens accent, unpredicatble, unfiltered abilitto hammer can keep the radical leftists, traitors, the ever growing swamp of bureaucrats, enemy of the state (MSM) and the deep state in check.

The US is deeply divided for the moment especially culturally and Trump participates actively and effectively. The only one who can guide the US through this cultural shift is Trump and by the end of his next term in 2024, hopefully the douchebag liberals, leftists, white supremacists, neocons and other fringes have been swatted down to being at the fringe. MSM and academia over the last 20 years have made the fringe the new normal, that needs to be reversed drastically.
Didn't he win last time because the liberals didn't come out to vote? But yeah the Dems don't have a half decent candidate.
 

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Iyer mitra has some good points here w.r.t Indian American community
 

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Well lets look at it this way -assuming you are not a moslem....its either WhiteSupremacist(Republican) or Islamofascist(Democrat).

Take your pick.I would take the former anytime.
Me too.......................................
 

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An old article but gives an excellent insight on the difference between infested carrier politicians (like our own bureaucracy) and Trump:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/12/what_makes_trump_run.html

What Makes Trump Run

It is an understatement to say that many Americans, particularly mass-media pundits, are baffled by President Trump’s “polarizing” behavior. There has never been any public figure quite like him: a president who speaks his mind so forcefully, often impolitely, while acting impetuously.

Let me suggest that Trump’s behavior is perfectly understandable if viewed in the context of his business background. As the Obama administration reflected governance by an egalitarian community activist, the current administration is rule by a hotel magnate.

This observation reflects my first-hand experience. Beginning in the late 1950s until the mid-1970s my father owned multiple large hotels (most with bars and restaurants) in New York City, Chicago, Baltimore, Washington, D.C., Palm Beach, Fl, Puerto Rico, New Orleans, and elsewhere. Unlike Trump, he had stockholders but, very much like Trump, he exercised power as an unchallenged boss, able to fire anybody in an instant for whatever reason no matter how flimsy.

Overseeing a hotel empire is comparable to managing a fire or police department in a Detroit-like city. Hotels operate 24/7, 365 days a year and exist in near perpetual crisis. I grew up hearing about electricity or hot water suddenly going kaput, reservation systems gone awry, unions threating picket lines, or health inspectors warning about closing restaurants while an awaiting mass transit strike meant that hotel workers could not show up for their jobs. Meanwhile, banks might threaten receivership unless a half-million mortgage payment was made by next Monday, but the money did not yet exist.

Then there are endless lawsuits, real and fake, along with employees filing grievance claims on everything from wrongful termination to racial discrimination. There were periodic missives from government taxing agencies and multiple other regulators concerning such things as reporting employee tips and overtime. No doubt, my father’s hotel empire helped dozens of lawyers pay their children’s college tuition and finance nice suburban homes. And to top it off, big-city hotels are incredibly multicultural with polyglot staffs whose cultures can conflict.


The upshot is that turning a profit requires a hard-headed “unpresidential” sometimes frantic management approach quite different from the style embraced by our political elites. Key decisions often had to be made on the spot, not shoved off for “further study.” Can you imagine President Obama personally overseeing a large downtown Chicago hotel with 250 poorly educated employees all the while trying to put 500 heads in beds 365 days a year against competitors fighting for the same clientele? He wouldn’t last a week. :truestory:

Hotels are not a business for delicate egos and soft rhetoric. Indeed, the willingness to take huge financial risks and successfully browbeat tough opponents is a recipe for creating an industry dominated by super-sized egos or, to use Spanish slang, people with cojones. Nice guys harboring self-doubts or who are unwilling to stage temper-tantrums fall by the wayside. It's all Darwinian.

Leadership by necessity is highly personal. You cannot appoint a committee to investigate when a desperate 9 P.M. call from the front desk tells you that there’s no hot water and hundreds of guests are threatening to check out and are refusing to pay. You telephone the chief engineer and you command him, no ifs, ands, or buts, to haul his ass down to the boiler room and fix the problem. If he explains that he’s on vacation, or that the problem is not fixable, you fire him and contract his assistant and make him an offer he cannot refuse -- "fix the f…king water problem or join the unemployment line.” If that doesn’t work, find somebody who can solve the mess and don’t worry about being offensive.

This is a harsh decision-making style that requires zero justification and thus outwardly looks flippant or chaotic. One commands, not persuades. There are no benefits for a boss able to carefully articulate policy to enlighten curious outsiders. These explanations add nothing to the solution, waste time and only confuse employees accustomed to just taking orders. “Do it, since I said so, and I’m the boss” is enough. The metric for success is the outcome, not some long-winded public reasoning that assures the press corps that the boss knows what he is doing.

This brutal style requires cutting corners, perhaps edging toward illegality. If the hotel’s bar is being excessively singled out for serving underage patrons, call a city official who has benefited from past campaign contributions and don’t mince words. Why else would you donate to everyone? As a youngster I recall my father having politically connected “friends” and lawyers on retainer who specialized in dicey situations. A cash bribe would often suffice and was judged a normal business practice. Local cops were always treated well since their cooperation was often required for awkward jobs; for example, clearing the hotel lobby of aggressive hookers.

Few private businesses can afford to drink the PC Kool-Aid of identity politics. There are rarely any Assistant Managers for Diversity and Inclusion to tell the boss to hire a more heterogeneous accounting staff. Businesses, unlike universities and government, operate with real money, so employees are hired for their ability, not according to race, gender, sexual identity etc., and stereotypes -- largely based on past experience -- are commonplace. My father, for example, relying on decades of experience, loved Hispanics -- hard workers who always showed up!! Nobody in the industry was embarrassed by awkward realities -- they knew from experience that job applicants of a certain stripe were disproportionately prone to sloth and often would happily admit it.

A larger political issue resides here beyond explaining President Trump’s “unpresidential” behavior. Fewer and fewer business people now enter politics either as candidates for office or as top administrators, a huge loss of talent. What company CEO wants to be grilled by senators, all of whom lack private sector experience, about the multiple lawsuits, accusations of discrimination, fights with the IRS, rumors of bribery and why, to be hypothetical, 10 years ago he evicted an impoverished disabled elderly lady of color with a dozen cats from her hotel room? Recall how Mitt Romney was excoriated for his association with Bain Capital for destroying jobs and widening the wealth gap? Being a white male is bad enough; being a white male businessman is truly toxic.

We’ve come a long way from the 1950s when the Eisenhower cabinet was described as “Nine Millionaires and a Plumber.” Indeed, it was once commonplace, especially during war years, for successful businessmen to enter government and get paid a symbolic “dollar a year.”

We are now governed by likes of Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, who have spent their entire lives on the government payroll with zero firsthand private sector experience. Congress might pass detailed anti-discrimination laws, but how many legislators have personally tried to fire dishonest workers willing to file endless bogus claims of discrimination? Do they know what it's like to complete all the mind-numbing paperwork necessary to get a small bank loan? Trump knows all about this wealth-killing nitty-gritty and much more but, alas, he may well be the last business person ever to be elected to high office. Experience at making money in business has become far less important than skin color or sex.
 
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