2020 US election and its Impact on India Megathread

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Quad is stillborn. Trump's great Indo-Pacific pivot went up in smoke with his electoral defeat. Biden's first order as CIC will be to withdraw the US Navy from the South China Sea and take a load from Xi.
Australia is dead set on collision course with China.
Japan & Taiwan are already hedging their bets on US support.

If this new administration takes load off Xi, it would be laughed off in future engagements,
US is powerful & it's power comes from making other countries toe it's lie.

If other countries stop toeing it's line, much of US power would be lost.
 

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In the reports on possible sanctions.....these...


have not made any waiver determinations with respect to Indian transactions with Russia,” the spokesperson told Reuters.

But the outcome could depend on how India-U.S. defence cooperation progresses, he said, adding that India had been working with Washington on security in Asia more than ever before and this could be a mitigating factor.....
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Always best to read past headlines.
 

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Trump is kaput! Trumptards should accept it and perhaps do a Heaven's Gate.. the aliens are coming to get Trump and his die hard robot all over the World! :pound:
 

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Not sure what they can do at this point...

Are they willing to hedge their eggs on Pakistan and afford to antagonize India?
With Quad taking off, US being a pain in India's neck would not sit well with other partners.
Not surprising,US deep state,that's been always been against India,though now they need India to counter China,but how can they see India rising?
I think their plan is to first counter China and then counter India similarly by supporting inbred pakis to maintain their hegemony.
 

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Not surprising,US deep state,that's been always been against India,though now they need India to counter China,but how can they see India rising?
I think their plan is to first counter China and then counter India similarly by supporting inbred pakis to maintain their hegemony.
They themselves need India to rise if they don't they can kiss goodbye to their World dominance there is no choice for them it's either India or no-one.
 

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Why not? US open immigration policies mean the US population can be stabilized while the rest of the World will see dramatic population declines. What is important is to keep the US institutions healthy and strong and not burn them down like Trump tried to do in 4 years.
 

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Expect some noise as usual from Dems, nothing concrete to keep home crowd cheering.

India needed to get some huge orders of w.r.t GE engines when there was an opportunity. If Dems would have tried to move too much, defense complex would have payed them a nice visit. Thats how it generally rolls in Washington.
 

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Why not? US open immigration policies mean the US population can be stabilized while the rest of the World will see dramatic population declines. What is important is to keep the US institutions healthy and strong and not burn them down like Trump tried to do in 4 years.
Once you bring foreign populations, the original character is lost. it's not a surprise why newyork and california behave the way they do, they are a melting pot.
for ex: if texas continues to open up for tech, we might see the an end to open carry policy in a decade or two.
 

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Why not? US open immigration policies mean the US population can be stabilized while the rest of the World will see dramatic population declines. What is important is to keep the US institutions healthy and strong and not burn them down like Trump tried to do in 4 years.
That is not the purpose for which he wants to legalize those illegal immigrants. They are easy vote banks to rely on in future. They can make legal migration easier isn't it for (even for low wage earners if that is the only concern).
 

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Once you bring foreign populations, the original character is lost. it's not a surprise why newyork and california behave the way they do, they are a melting pot.
for ex: if texas continues to open up for tech, we might see the an end to open carry policy in a decade or two.
But I dont see the California ecnomy going down.
If migrants were the problem than economic metrics should have fallen. I know the signs wouldn't show up any soon but still the slowdown should have been visible.
Even with 16% employment rate the state has managed to thrive on food stamps and social services.



I think until or unless other countries challenge California's Tech industry it won't go down.

Another thing chinese is the third most spoken language in Cali.
 

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Once you bring foreign populations, the original character is lost. it's not a surprise why newyork and california behave the way they do, they are a melting pot.
for ex: if texas continues to open up for tech, we might see the an end to open carry policy in a decade or two.
Mass Immigration as Military Action Against an Opponent

During World War 2, one of the things Nazi Germany did was to “colonize” both France and Poland with German settlements. After the war this was brought up as one of the atrocities Germany committed.

In the Soviet Union, one of the things Stalin did was move ethnicities around, isolating them, and turning them into Russians. For example, moving Ukrainians into Russia proper, and moving Russians into areas that were formerly majority Ukrainian, reducing the area of majority-Ukranian land and, because Ukranians are white, converting Ukranians into Russians inside Russia by isolating them from any other Ukranians.

Until very recently, Israel supported and supplied settlements in Judea-Samara / The West Bank. These were Jewish settlements in a majority-Muslim area. This was considered a “human rights violation” by the United Nations.

ISIS, which has operations in Libya, has stated that part of their strategy is to promote mass immigration to Europe – both Middle Eastern / North African and black African. The idea is that this will destabilize Europe.

Gaddafi, just before the NATO air strikes on Libya which, in conjunction with the anti-Gaddafi “rebels” on the ground, ultimately overthrew him, Gaddafi threatened to send millions of black Africans to Europe, saying he would turn Europe black unless they gave him 4 billion Euros. He correctly saw mass migration in military terms.

When the Chinese began mass importing of Chinese into Tibet, the whole world recognized this as an aggressive military act – independent of the invasion that occurred back in 1950. Like with the Israeli settlements, there were protests saying to “free Tibet” in response to mass Chinese immigration.

Similarly, when the League of Nations condemned Japan’s actions in Manchuria, part of the list of grievances against Japan was Japanese settlements in both Manchuria and Korea.

When the Turks settled the then-majority-Greek areas of eastern Anatolia, including Constantinople, that was seen at the time as a terrible tragedy by Europe. And the settlement of Bulgaria and Serbia with Turks was also seen as a form of immolation of those countries.

Lets say you want to bring a Kenyan into France. What is the outcome of this? Ignoring the likely net economic cost of the Kenyan to France, the result is that Kenya is still 100% Kenyan, while France now has a Kenyan in it, who can vote. Send in a million, and now Kenya has 2% control of France, but retains 100% control of Kenya.

The reality is that mass immigration is a form of warfare against whoever you are immigrating against.
 

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But I dont see the California ecnomy going down.
If migrants were the problem than economic metrics should have fallen. I know the signs wouldn't show up any soon but still the slowdown should have been visible.
Even with 16% employment rate the state has managed to thrive on food stamps and social services.



I think until or unless other countries challenge California's Tech industry it won't go down.

Another thing chinese is the third most spoken language in Cali.
Big Tech janab.
and little techs also, and once again the immigrants aren't just Mehicans and other Latinos but big degree holding Chinese and Desis too, i.e the "high skilled" ones.
Immigration is (((good for the economy))) since you have a continous supply of new young workers who also double up as consumers of both products and services like loans.

It is however bad for social stability and cohesion, that is the point ezsasa was making, since Cali and Jew York are utter liberal swamps.
 

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Mass Immigration as Military Action Against an Opponent

During World War 2, one of the things Nazi Germany did was to “colonize” both France and Poland with German settlements. After the war this was brought up as one of the atrocities Germany committed.

In the Soviet Union, one of the things Stalin did was move ethnicities around, isolating them, and turning them into Russians. For example, moving Ukrainians into Russia proper, and moving Russians into areas that were formerly majority Ukrainian, reducing the area of majority-Ukranian land and, because Ukranians are white, converting Ukranians into Russians inside Russia by isolating them from any other Ukranians.

Until very recently, Israel supported and supplied settlements in Judea-Samara / The West Bank. These were Jewish settlements in a majority-Muslim area. This was considered a “human rights violation” by the United Nations.

ISIS, which has operations in Libya, has stated that part of their strategy is to promote mass immigration to Europe – both Middle Eastern / North African and black African. The idea is that this will destabilize Europe.

Gaddafi, just before the NATO air strikes on Libya which, in conjunction with the anti-Gaddafi “rebels” on the ground, ultimately overthrew him, Gaddafi threatened to send millions of black Africans to Europe, saying he would turn Europe black unless they gave him 4 billion Euros. He correctly saw mass migration in military terms.

When the Chinese began mass importing of Chinese into Tibet, the whole world recognized this as an aggressive military act – independent of the invasion that occurred back in 1950. Like with the Israeli settlements, there were protests saying to “free Tibet” in response to mass Chinese immigration.

Similarly, when the League of Nations condemned Japan’s actions in Manchuria, part of the list of grievances against Japan was Japanese settlements in both Manchuria and Korea.

When the Turks settled the then-majority-Greek areas of eastern Anatolia, including Constantinople, that was seen at the time as a terrible tragedy by Europe. And the settlement of Bulgaria and Serbia with Turks was also seen as a form of immolation of those countries.

Lets say you want to bring a Kenyan into France. What is the outcome of this? Ignoring the likely net economic cost of the Kenyan to France, the result is that Kenya is still 100% Kenyan, while France now has a Kenyan in it, who can vote. Send in a million, and now Kenya has 2% control of France, but retains 100% control of Kenya.

The reality is that mass immigration is a form of warfare against whoever you are immigrating against.
This is why India needs to go full Israel/CCP on the Kashmir valley, eastern districts of West Bengal, Malappuram Kerala to strategically marginalise the peaceful population. A similar strategy for risk mitigation can be applied to the followers of the RoL in the north east and the southern tip of Tamil Nadu. Unfortunately the Hindu establishment has a backbone made out of whipped cream and the Indian deep state isn’t pro Hindu either.

Well at least we can collectively cheer about the greatness of indian civilisational when Justin Trudeau puts on a Kurta Pajama. Or another ex hippie converts to ISKCON. 😑
 

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^^ I will add something which will be interesting to monitor in 3-5 years period.

Lot of Tech, Utubers content creators, remote workers left SF, LA to lower tax regimes like Vegas (Nevada), Dallas (Texas) due to Chini virus. The small business are getting trashed due to regulations and shutting down, some moving..So net net the state taxes collection will decrease in coming years. will be interesting to see how it pans out in next couple of years for CA.
 

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Big Tech janab.
and little techs also, and once again the immigrants aren't just Mehicans and other Latinos but big degree holding Chinese and Desis too, i.e the "high skilled" ones.
Immigration is (((good for the economy))) since you have a continous supply of new young workers who also double up as consumers of both products and services like loans.

It is however bad for social stability and cohesion, that is the point ezsasa was making, since Cali and Jew York are utter liberal swamps.
I envision the Democrats see a future where they will keep 75% of the population as a dem voter by spooking them against the Repubs. These 75% may be employed in small time things such as sales, maintenance, cleaning etc all the small time jobs rest 20% from the 75% who are unemployed will be given a handout so that they dont riot.

The top 5% will consist of rich white polictians, businessmen, actors, directors, real estate owners etc.
Now the 20% will be skilled labourers from immigrant population that will keep the economy booming. But there will be very little scope for their betterment.


Looking at it America is going back to dark ages.

5% aristocrat/noblemen
20% skilled workers/soldiers/traders/handlers
75% peasants

The communist dream
 
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