2020 US election and its Impact on India Megathread

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Yo... That's why they are fortifying their position with national guard and blocking all roads to Joe fell'a inauguration...Fattu commies....
There will be some dramatic violent "riot" type event that will be dumped on Trumpers/Republican supporters, and will then be used by Budhen govt to legitimize tighter controls online about "hate-speech" and having some kind of stringent domestic terrorism law to crush any future right wing movements.

From now on Americunts will only have a Hobson's Choice between two kinds of parties, Loony Left extremist Demoncrats and Liberal Lite Republicucks, after whatever drama happens on Sleepy Joe's inauguration, espousing proper right wing or conservative positions will be downright blasphemous, similar to how "nationalism" became taboo in Germany after WW2's end.
 

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Y, all Nibba's ..Pooor trump.. it was BLM / Antiffa.. false flag operation...

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Ya know how it will spin out..
The paid media could actually come up with a nice story that trump paid that Antifa guy to create nonsense and the americans will believe it...They would call it nice names like flase flag and what not.
in essence any american media who is supporting this nonsense siding with Antifa is actually shooting themselves on the foot.their future..the future of their beloved investments.

Hey..and the problem is.even if they believe that trump was victimized..the world is seeing how powerless civilians are when it comes to protecting the pureness of democracy. The "company" calls the shot.. election is just an illusion for people of the oldest democracy.
It simply shows 2 things..democracy is weak...civilians are weak and there is nothing they can do about it if a few decides to take things into their own hands.

Remember this movie?..The shooter!
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The settings are just different.
but the theme can be applied to American democracy now..

In the movie the guys kill a whole village ..so that they need not tell the other villagers to move out when the oil pipes comes through the village.

In real world america...they kicked out their president .:rofl: just to tell others that keep silent and behave..surrender to the wishes of the masters else if they can do it to president ..the rest of them are jujoobi.
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no matter what the reality is..its the cabal that decides the future of the democracy..election or not. American election is just like the ICC cricket world cup a few years back..fixed by dalals in Dubai..but instead of the dalals its the commie china and a few leftist socialist billionaires .Civilians can enjoy the show..spend their energy and money shout and cheerlead .but the outcome is already decided.

This is also a warning to other democracies showing them as vulnerable to the meddling of chinese dictatorship. china is alredy mocking democracy with its antics just to keep its civilians STOP believing in democracy. All these tactics are cumulative for the survival of dictatorship in china.

These kind of behavior should be clipped in the bud itself
Nations need to have strong digital rules..and kick out these SM companies..instead should have govt departments/cooperations catering the need of digital presence for its own citizens.. The content India generates is its and the economic benefit of it should go to the nation not some SM company that will eventually destroy the fabric of democracy.
 
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IB has it's work cut out. CIA director-in-waiting's previous statement regarding Hindu majoritarianism is concerning. This is a position that has access to immense information, manpower & money.
He won't be able to do much except for Issuing statements here and there...or may be use their front end "Global think tanks" to start some thing on lines of shaheen bagh / farmers....People saw thru shaheen bagh and they are seeing farmers too... ultimately , their aim of putting pappu on throne will be defeated ...
 

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Agreed, it confirms many of our worst expectations from the Biden regime. Lack of a "waiver" for the S-400 purchase is only the beginning.

The only strategy that will work when dealing with the Biden admin will have to be bluff-calling. Call their bluff at everything, beginning with banning western social media, going ahead with the S-400 deal, and letting market forces put brakes on the U.S. response to breaching the sanctions.

The Biden admin can only be tamed if you're not afraid of economic consequences, and are willing to hedge your bets at everything. The best by-product of the Trump admin has been that the EU has become a lot more independent with its foreign policy. Leverage that.

Modi needs to switch gears from pragmatism to gaul. Because it's gaul that enabled Democrats to beat Trump in 2020. You cannot be statesmanlike in dealing with this administration.
 

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Agreed, it confirms many of our worst expectations from the Biden regime. Lack of a "waiver" for the S-400 purchase is only the beginning.

The only strategy that will work when dealing with the Biden admin will have to be bluff-calling. Call their bluff at everything, beginning with banning western social media, going ahead with the S-400 deal, and letting market forces put brakes on the U.S. response to breaching the sanctions.

The Biden admin can only be tamed if you're not afraid of economic consequences, and are willing to hedge your bets at everything. The best by-product of the Trump admin has been that the EU has become a lot more independent with its foreign policy. Leverage that.

Modi needs to switch gears from pragmatism to gaul. Because it's gaul that enabled Democrats to beat Trump in 2020. You cannot be statesmanlike in dealing with this administration.
this time there is an opportunity to come and bat on front foot by our folks. why even pretend publicly that Biden folks are not anti-modi and anti-BJP, might as well say it openly in opeds and TV programmes through strategic commentators things like:

“We know Biden administration does not like modi at a personal & ideological level, question is whether they will be able to rise above these I’ll founded opinions and work together for indo-US relationship”.

or

“There is growing suspicion that Biden administration will work towards strengthening the hand of China in global affairs in the coming years, whether Biden administration will go tough on China remains to be seen”.

or

“Success of Biden administration’s foreign policy will be judged on how well his administration manages to make China accountable on various issues like HK, COVID & Chinese Muslims”

I am sure Sushant Sareen & NewsX folks will say these kind of things, Q is whether other will say these things.
 

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Agreed, it confirms many of our worst expectations from the Biden regime. Lack of a "waiver" for the S-400 purchase is only the beginning.

The only strategy that will work when dealing with the Biden admin will have to be bluff-calling. Call their bluff at everything, beginning with banning western social media, going ahead with the S-400 deal, and letting market forces put brakes on the U.S. response to breaching the sanctions.

The Biden admin can only be tamed if you're not afraid of economic consequences, and are willing to hedge your bets at everything. The best by-product of the Trump admin has been that the EU has become a lot more independent with its foreign policy. Leverage that.

Modi needs to switch gears from pragmatism to gaul. Because it's gaul that enabled Democrats to beat Trump in 2020. You cannot be statesmanlike in dealing with this administration.
Q - What kind of prohibits he can put on Us

Edit- Unlike Vajpayee years, situation is different under modi... We have better leverage in overall scheme of things ... we have various agreements too including logistics support for USN...
 

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Do you deny the fact that the influence of the secular-liberal left, commonly known as the luteyan cucks, has diminished greatly over the past 6 years, and continues to reduce steadily ? Many of the bhadwa krantikari journalists now find themselves in exile reduced to basemented gutter dwellers or jail.

It is correct for government not to play a part in going after media houses in a democracy unless it is for fraud, as in the case of randitv. However, in these changed times, at least three major channels have now started airing news from what were until now no-go zones: from love jihads to Basirhat riots and targeted killing of RSS workers in communist shitholes, the reporting is now substantially on an even keel. The distortion is being corrected very naturally, and we have already moved very far from 2014 without most of us even realizing it. It is now time to move ahead to the logical next step: supporting the Hindu ecosystem.
Let me Be a Devils Advocate here, all that BJP has achieved wont help them when they are out of power for the most part they have failed or more so we have failed to create a RW ecosystem. Not only that they have failed to dent the LW ecosystem.
Ford Foundation not banned . Green Peace not banned. NDTV left with some slap to the wrist
All politicians except lalu out of jail, and that too lalu is fixing matches out of his jail cell.
Ram Mandir is under IAS supervision U cant expect it to be a meeca or vatican for hindus at this rate.
Channels like Republic, Sudarshan and zee news will be first to be targeted ones the gov flips back. RW accounts on social media are already being purged.

Just Put urself in the enemies shoes and think
 

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Q - What kind of prohibits he can put on Us

Edit- Unlike Vajpayee years, situation is different under modi... We have better leverage in overall scheme of things ... we have various agreements too including logistics support for USN...
Heckling in defense deals, renew support to Pakis like obama, restart funding to NGOs and orgns(u know which ones). More mentioning of India in HR reports, force us into climate change deals decline support to our resolutions in UN
 

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Heckling in defense deals, renew support to Pakis like obama, restart funding to NGOs and orgns(u know which ones). More mentioning of India in HR reports, force us into climate change deals decline support to our resolutions in UN
Defence deals.. they end up loosing the deals if they hackle too much... there are options

Love for porkland - That will happen irrespective ..

NGO's funding et all - Not easy , Modi have fortified the laws and rules ...

Human rights - Nobody gives a shit to this comme Crying any more... It;s just a nuisance.. it's like china asking for rights of Bats to live and prosper...

We need to realise one thing here... American MIC is sitting Idle since past 4 years of trump.. they need money and business... nobody is in position except for india / ME ....
 

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During Trump administration we enjoyed support in a form of non interference, Prez Trump didn't make it a point to push us very hard on much matters this being S400 sale, CAA, 370, Balakot and Ram mandir, all the matters could have invited a discussion in US power circles but it didn't because Trump had different priority.
We had more military cooperation during Obama than any other time. Trumps enmity with China helped us to push Quad and LEMOA, I doubt QUAD will see any further development under Buden, there is a chance it might get scrapped all together.
 

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Agreed, it confirms many of our worst expectations from the Biden regime. Lack of a "waiver" for the S-400 purchase is only the beginning.

The only strategy that will work when dealing with the Biden admin will have to be bluff-calling. Call their bluff at everything, beginning with banning western social media, going ahead with the S-400 deal, and letting market forces put brakes on the U.S. response to breaching the sanctions.

The Biden admin can only be tamed if you're not afraid of economic consequences, and are willing to hedge your bets at everything. The best by-product of the Trump admin has been that the EU has become a lot more independent with its foreign policy. Leverage that.

Modi needs to switch gears from pragmatism to gaul. Because it's gaul that enabled Democrats to beat Trump in 2020. You cannot be statesmanlike in dealing with this administration.
Lack of waiver? Biden administration? Like Trump administration has officially granted one? Let’s atleast wait for the Biden”administration “, they have said nothing yet though they can’t take a different stand publicly anyways. This is a law passed by the congress, with loopholes duly allowed but no one is about to publicly talk about that. If anyone thinks that someone in the US administration, whether from the Trump team or the Biden team is going to say anything different, they are bound to be completely disappointed.

The best way to deal with these types of comments is not to react. We do what we have to, the Americans will be committing both suicide and murder of the India-US relations if they go down the sanctions route. We need to stop getting all prickly and ignore these comments. When and if it ever comes down to sanctions, we will just have to deal with it then.
 

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During Trump administration we enjoyed support in a form of non interference, Prez Trump didn't make it a point to push us very hard on much matters this being S400 sale, CAA, 370, Balakot and Ram mandir, all the matters could have invited a discussion in US power circles but it didn't because Trump had different priority.
We had more military cooperation during Obama than any other time. Trumps enmity with China helped us to push Quad and LEMOA, I doubt QUAD will see any further development under Buden, there is a chance it might get scrapped all together.
Agree, we Enjoyed trumps support greatly and trump gave a middle finger to all commies crying 370 and hooman rights...

QUAD - Dynamic are such that biden will have to take quad forward. He cannot sleep with china openly and his every word will be put in thru microscope.... Even if he does't take quad forward.. AUS / Japan are firmly against china and triad would be more than enough to counter bat munchers...
 

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During Trump administration we enjoyed support in a form of non interference, Prez Trump didn't make it a point to push us very hard on much matters this being S400 sale, CAA, 370, Balakot and Ram mandir, all the matters could have invited a discussion in US power circles but it didn't because Trump had different priority.
We had more military cooperation during Obama than any other time. Trumps enmity with China helped us to push Quad and LEMOA, I doubt QUAD will see any further development under Buden, there is a chance it might get scrapped all together.
We had plenty of trouble on the economic front, almost equivalent of being sanctioned. Our hand was forced on Iran, some crazy talk on Pakistan and Kashmir had to be listened too.

Biden has appointed some top officials who aren’t hostile to India, his tzar for Asia Kurt Campbell couldn’t be better for India if we tried. His SoS is reasonably well disposed towards India and while the CIA chief has made some comments on Modi and CAA, Kashmir etc, I don’t believe that alone will have any negative impact on relations with India. There are no Silo operators here who will run their own policy, different from SoS or Biden’s pointsman for Asia, Kurt Campbell.
 
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