2020 US election and its Impact on India Megathread

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Does Joe Biden has Magic Band, which will Fix everything in America

Joe Biden is the president-elect of the United States, no matter how much Donald Trump speaks of illegality during elections. He himself contributed to his loss during the Great Pandemic. It is the Covid-19 pandemic, which did a job on him. Now he should hand over the job with grace and retire.

Joe Biden's new administration has a tremendous task before it. First of all, it must cure America of the Conservative-Liberal divide. Second, proceed speedily on work on progress in earnest to cure America of the serious pandemic, which has killed more people and sickened more people in America and the rest of the world. If he has a magic wand, then now is the time to wave it. He may lose all his support in the blink of an eye if very little is done other than election promises. Third, China's obtuse behavior, with huge amounts of American money in their pockets, intimidate countries on the outskirts of the South and North China Sea. These three seriously undertaken tasks will give greater confidence to the Biden government.

The healing America of its divide with the emergence of truly leftist organizations (I Cannot Breath) is a long range process. The 80 to 90% white population is just not ready to hand over their money and power to the Black America which is roughly 10% only. This process is well in progress with a black president, a bunch of black media person and black politicians all over America when in 1965 there were none. It was pretty well accelerated when black President Obama took power. An acceleration of this process is an invitation to civil conflict.

Remedy to the current pandemic, which has been the primary reason for people not voting for Donald Trump is almost here. The corporate world played partisan by delaying the announcement of the vaccine success by two days and waited after the elections. Even success is not so great that I will explain it later. However, it allowed Joe Biden to take full advantage of the pandemic concerns to get a vote.

Now we have a couple of vaccines that are going to help Joe Biden. One of them (Pfizer) can be difficult to dispense quickly due to its -70 degree temperature requirement. You need big, expensive infrastructure. It's not that bad for the Moderna vaccine because it requires -20 degrees, which is easier to create. These two vaccine production supplies have been cornered by US hence the rest of the world has to wait for six months or more. There is a third and more promising vaccine by AstraZeneca and Oxford also in the later stages of testing and confirmatory. It requires regular refrigeration. It is, if everything is well to be produced in large quantities in India and in some other countries. That is very likely to be used by the rest of the world. Other countries like Russia, China and India are in the final stages of their own vaccine development.

It is the price of the vaccine delivered to everyone that is significant. The Pfizer and the Moderna are the most expensive which, unless subsidised, will be out of reach of the rest of the masses in the world. AstraZeneca can be within the price range, which middle-income countries could afford. Developed locally in India and China will be good for their own countries as they are in the price bracket they can afford.

To accomplish other economic, political and strategic tasks, we need to overcome the pandemic syndrome with a cure.

This is the policy aspect that would determine the outcome of Joe Biden's presidency. In Asia and East Asia the most important question is the obtuse behaviour of China. It is the weak and uneven policies of Obama/Clinton and the Extraordinary War Syndrome during the Bush era (Jr) that the Chinese have had the signal to build a $3 trillion pool in foreign reserves and expand their armed forces to an unprecedented level. They were building an army rivalling the United States, although the quality is much lower. With the military power at their disposal, the Chinese captured the whole South China Sea, and banned navigation unless they allowed it. It happened when Obama was in the driver's seat. It is bad for the Chinese to question the ships in the region where they are going and what the goal is. The whole of seaboard from Japan to Malaysia/Singapore has been put in jeopardy in the long run. Their navy, which is very nascent and inexperienced has not exerted any pressure on Indian Ocean but it is a foregone conclusion. Only two powers in the world can tell China to go and get lost, namely the United States in the South China Sea and India with other powers in the Indian Ocean. The latter is working hard to create an alliance (QUAD). To neutralize the Indian effort, China began to exert military pressure on India in the Himalayas. Hardly did they know that India has been anticipating that for some time, hence built up mountain fighting defenses that after initial success scared the Chinese to stand still. This was a poor military operation for the Chinese nearly as close to defeat as possible. After China's defeat in Vietnam in 1979, that will be the second military setback.

Incomes Joe Biden. He has been second guessing Donald Trump in everything. Where as Trump had instituted a strategy to counter China and try to limit imports from them by instituting import duties also bring in a major American naval fleet to Singapore or somewhere near to challenge China, we do not know what Joe Biden will do. He hired all the bureaucrats of the Clinton-Obama era to set his policy. His choice of Secretary of State and National Security Advisor of Clinton/Obama era does not inspire confidence. Their utterances so far are middle of the road. Asia, Europe and China are fully tuned into their current utterances, hence waiting for something specific. They may sabotage QUAD or sabotage locating part of the American naval fleet to Singapore.

Joe Biden did not comment on Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and the rest of the Middle East. In my view, very positive policies have never stopped the wars that are going on there.

Hence we are in a limbo. It is too early to know whether Joe Biden and his men will be as tough as Donald Trump or is he going to sweet talk unscrupulous men now ruling China to expand more and start new wars everywhere. Or will he be tough on China, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, Syria, etc. and tell them to behave or else.
Answer to the first one is that liberals created the divide between whites and non-whites using social media and MSM, for racial divide in U.S to calm down they just need to stop provoking the whites, everything will be business as usual once this happens.

i say, America's actions/reaction is no longer in it's own hand, it is in CCP's hands. CCP has tasted blood with it's wolf warrior diplomacy, i doubt they will let go of this new found power. Given that they have successfully forced their rival country to pick a president of CCP's choosing, in other words U.S now has a selected president , CCP would only accelerate their plans to repeat use of this tactic everywhere else. liberal media may try to suppress negative news from china like they used to do it during obama period, but now CCP may not like their power moves to be suppressed anymore.
 

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Answer to the first one is that liberals created the divide between whites and non-whites using social media and MSM, for racial divide in U.S to calm down they just need to stop provoking the whites, everything will be business as usual once this happens.

i say, America's actions/reaction is no longer in it's own hand, it is in CCP's hands. CCP has tasted blood with it's wolf warrior diplomacy, i doubt they will let go of this new found power. Given that they have successfully forced their rival country to pick a president of CCP's choosing, in other words U.S now has a selected president , CCP would only accelerate their plans to repeat use of this tactic everywhere else. liberal media may try to suppress negative news from china like they used to do it during obama period, but now CCP may not like their power moves to be suppressed anymore.
Not true.

CCP is not as powerful as you believe. Trump loss is his own doing. He stayed too much over confident until the last minute. He underplayed the Covid threat. As a consequence middle segment of the voter shifted to joe.
 

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Answer to the first one is that liberals created the divide between whites and non-whites using social media and MSM, for racial divide in U.S to calm down they just need to stop provoking the whites, everything will be business as usual once this happens.

i say, America's actions/reaction is no longer in it's own hand, it is in CCP's hands. CCP has tasted blood with it's wolf warrior diplomacy, i doubt they will let go of this new found power. Given that they have successfully forced their rival country to pick a president of CCP's choosing, in other words U.S now has a selected president , CCP would only accelerate their plans to repeat use of this tactic everywhere else. liberal media may try to suppress negative news from china like they used to do it during obama period, but now CCP may not like their power moves to be suppressed anymore.
Stop believing this meme of 10 foot China man, Chings stand to benefit from sleepy Joe rule, but they are not the ones to place him, the US Deep State/Corporates are the ones who have /selected/ him.
They may have tried their best to help him to the kursi, but at the end of the day it is the deep state that does the /selection/
 

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Answer to the first one is that liberals created the divide between whites and non-whites using social media and MSM, for racial divide in U.S to calm down they just need to stop provoking the whites, everything will be business as usual once this happens.

i say, America's actions/reaction is no longer in it's own hand, it is in CCP's hands. CCP has tasted blood with it's wolf warrior diplomacy, i doubt they will let go of this new found power. Given that they have successfully forced their rival country to pick a president of CCP's choosing, in other words U.S now has a selected president , CCP would only accelerate their plans to repeat use of this tactic everywhere else. liberal media may try to suppress negative news from china like they used to do it during obama period, but now CCP may not like their power moves to be suppressed anymore.
I have been more inclined towards this thinking into jones type conspiracy now a days that its more like few top powerful people controlling and shaping the politics/economics to their liking. Media houses/SM are tools to influence public voting and getting desired outcome. A few oligarch in US and higher ups in CCP will fight for power later when their disputes outweigh interests. As of currently, their interest aligns perfectly giving them more power and more money. Biden in WH do not have any power over his donors and the backend people who made sure he won. Just to give an example, Sanders although he is kind of socialist had more following, warren was propped up to divide that vote and then silently went down. Some candidates like Yang, Tulsi were kept out of media coverage although they were doing better than harris. Its like matrix, but its real and you think you have an choice.

Small business are closing due to pandemic and there will be more concentration of power in big companies. Its like feudalism version infinity.0, the results will be interesting to see in decade or so as China laps up all US influence, dollar becoming weaker due to excessive printing for bail out (20% of US dollars were printed in 2020 o_O).
 

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I have been more inclined towards this thinking into jones type conspiracy now a days that its more like few top powerful people controlling and shaping the politics/economics to their liking. Media houses/SM are tools to influence public voting and getting desired outcome. A few oligarch in US and higher ups in CCP will fight for power later when their disputes outweigh interests. As of currently, their interest aligns perfectly giving them more power and more money. Biden in WH do not have any power over his donors and the backend people who made sure he won. Just to give an example, Sanders although he is kind of socialist had more following, warren was propped up to divide that vote and then silently went down. Some candidates like Yang, Tulsi were kept out of media coverage although they were doing better than harris. Its like matrix, but its real and you think you have an choice.

Small business are closing due to pandemic and there will be more concentration of power in big companies. Its like feudalism version infinity.0, the results will be interesting to see in decade or so as China laps up all US influence, dollar becoming weaker due to excessive printing for bail out (20% of US dollars were printed in 2020 o_O).
For me i started thinking this way ever since death of Total (Oil company) CEO in a plane crash on Oct 21 2014 and immediately aftermath the oil price(crash) wars started.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...geriekilled-in-moscow-plane-crash-say-reports

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if there was no chinese virus, would trump have lost the election?
Even with the Chinese virus, he could have won had he not made stupid statements about not wearing mask, some hoax treatment methods and other such things. He should have made repeated emotional statements like career politicians do, promised some freebies (and not deliver them after election like politicians do) and gone soft on that wall thing. Also he should have tactfully handled George Floyd incident and buried this BLM group in its nascent stage. All this could have ensured 100% Trump re election. Trump is more talk than work. He says stupid things in public that are undefendable and plays into the hands of regressive left. You think people voted for Biden cause they like him or his policies? NO. It was Trump vs. Anti-Trump election.
 

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if there was no chinese virus, would trump have lost the election?
It's more about how leaders handled the situation. In case of India, migrant workers case was handled tactfully by Modi by direct cash transfer, travel arrangements and other such relief measures. Had Modi acted like Trump (which he never ever will, cause he's not from the elite class and also a shrewd politician) BJP would have lost Bihar election.
 
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Not true.

CCP is not as powerful as you believe. Trump loss is his own doing. He stayed too much over confident until the last minute. He underplayed the Covid threat. As a consequence middle segment of the voter shifted to joe.
He managed quite well getting 4-5 million more votes than last time. But the mismanagement and poor media handling in covid time did caused him bad a lot.
He could have done better on that front.
 

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