1 in 200 men direct descendants of Genghis Khan

Singh

Phat Cat
Super Mod
Joined
Feb 23, 2009
Messages
20,311
Likes
8,399
Country flag
So Afghanistan was part of India??
Hindukush marks the extremity of the subcontinent. So part of Aghanistan can be geographically considered a part of the subcontinent.

As for Aghanistan being part of India, Southern part of it(Pashtun lands) has been with "Indians" for many years.
 

Singh

Phat Cat
Super Mod
Joined
Feb 23, 2009
Messages
20,311
Likes
8,399
Country flag
except the small part of punjab region.
the rest of pakistan fall under the genghis khan empire
Pakistan is made up of 50% Balochistan by land, and 70% by population by Punjab-Sindh.
So if Genghis Khan is the parameter of deciding then, over 2/3rd Pakistanis were part of India.
 

Commando

New Member
Joined
Nov 16, 2012
Messages
8
Likes
12
this map certainly confirms that Pakistan was never a part of india.
Huh?

Actually, the majority of Pakistan (Punjab, Sindh, Northern Areas) were not part of the Mongol empire just like the rest of India at the time. The only parts separated from the rest of India/Pakistan are Baluchistan and NWFP areas (the same areas today that have separatist movements in them).
 

civfanatic

Retired
Ambassador
Joined
Sep 8, 2009
Messages
4,561
Likes
2,568
Hindukush marks the extremity of the subcontinent. So part of Aghanistan can be geographically considered a part of the subcontinent.

As for Aghanistan being part of India, Southern part of it(Pashtun lands) has been with "Indians" for many years.
Slightly OT. The ancient Greeks and Romans seem to have considered Afghanistan to be part of India, and the Kabul river to have marked India's western boundary (rather than the Indus).

From Pliny's Naturalis Historia:
The greater part of the geographers, in fact, do not look upon India as bounded by the river Indus, but add to it the four Satrapies of the Gedrosi, the Arachotæ, the Arii, and the Paropauisidæ, the river Cophes thus forming the extreme boundary of India.
Link: http://perseus.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Plin.+Nat.+6.23

"Cophes" is the Greco-Roman name for the Kabul river. "Gedrosia" corresponds to modern Balochistan, "Arachosia" to southern Afghanistan around Kandahar, "Aria" to northwest Afghanistan around Herat, and "Paropamisus" was the Greco-Roman name for the Hindu-Kush region.

The following map does a fairly good job of illustrating these regions, when they were part of the Seleucid Empire. Later, they were acquired by Chandragupta Maurya:
 

amoy

Senior Member
Joined
Jan 17, 2010
Messages
5,982
Likes
1,846
What is social selection? In this context it's pretty obvious, the Mongol Empire was the personal property of the "Golden Family," the family of Genghis Khan. More precisely this came to consist of the descendants of Genghis Khan's four sons by his first and primary wife, Jochi, Chagatai, Ogedei, and Tolui. Like descent from the gods in the mythology of the Classical World, or the House of David in medieval Christian monarchies, a line back to Genghis Khan became a necessary precondition for fitness to be a ruler in the centuries after the rise of the Mongol Empire across much of Asia.
An interesting thread. Just too lengthy to go through... Genghis Khan (Temjin)'s eldest son Jochi was questioned not of his lineage. His first wife, newly married, was "kidnapped" by her ex-husband. When she was saved back, she was pregnant and gave birth to Jochi.

And long before that, Temjin's mother gave birth to 3 more children as a widow. They were suspected of being fathered by the only slave in their family. But his mother dispelled all the doubts by explaining her belly had been fondled every night by a god coming in rays, and rays got through her, hence she conceived his younger brothers.

So much about Khan's noble bloodline.
 
Last edited:

Johny_Baba

अज्ञानी
Senior Member
Joined
May 21, 2016
Messages
2,444
Likes
10,995
Country flag
THEY FINALLY FOUND CHINGGIS' RESTING PLACE!


Mongolia: Archaeologists Unearth Tomb Of Genghis Khan
Construction workers employed in road building near the Onon River in the Khentii province of Mongolia, have discovered a mass ԍʀᴀvᴇ containing the remains of many ᴅozᴇɴs of human coʀᴘsᴇs lying upon a large rudimentary stone structure.

Forensic experts and archaeologists were called on the site, which was revealed to be a Mongolian royal tomb from the 13th century that the scientists believe to be Genghis Khan’s. The team of scientists affiliated with the University of Beijing has concluded that the numerous skeletons ʙuʀιᴇᴅ on top of the structure were most likely the slaves who built it and who were then мᴀssᴀcʀᴇᴅ to keep the secret of the location.
The ʀᴇмᴀιɴs of twelve horses were also found on the site, certainly sᴀcʀιғιcᴇᴅ to accompany the Great Khan in ᴅᴇᴀтн.

A total of 68 skeletons were found ʙuʀιᴇᴅ together, almost directly over the top of a rather crude stone structure
The content of the tomb was scattered and badly deteriorated, presumably due to the fact that the site was located beneath the river bed for hundreds of years until the course of the Onon river changed in the 18th century. The ʀᴇмᴀιɴs of a tall male and sixteen female skeletons were identified among hundreds of gold and silver artifacts and thousands of coins.

The women are presumed to have been wives and concubines of the leader, who were κιʟʟᴇᴅ to accompany the warlord in the afterlife. The amount of treasure and the number of sᴀcʀιғιcᴇᴅ animals and people, have immediately led the archaeologists to consider that the site was certainly the ʙuʀιᴇᴅ site of a really powerful Mongol warlord. After realizing an extensive set of tests and analysis, they were able to confirm that the ʙoᴅʏ belonged to a man aged between 60 and 75, who ᴅιᴇᴅ between 1215 and 1235 AD. Both the age, the date, the location, and the opulence of the site seem to confirm that the tomb does indeed belong to Genghis Khan

The simple rock dome discovered by the archaeologists, was presumably ʙuʀιᴇᴅ beneath the Onon river for centuries. The incontestable historical importance of Genghis Khan makes this new discovery one of the most important in the history of archaeology. Born Temüjin (which means “of iron”), he was the founder and ԍʀᴇᴀтκнᴀɴ (emperor) of the Mongol Empire, which became the largest contiguous empire in history after his demise. He is known for uniting the tribes of Mongolia and merging them into one before launching a series of military campaigns in cнιɴᴀ, Central Asia, the Middle East and even Eastern Europe. He conquered more than 31 million square kilometers of land during his lifetime. His legacy has taken many forms besides his conquest and can still be found today, making him one of the most influential men in the history of mankind.
He connected the East and the West through the creation of the Silk Route, a trade route that would become and remain for centuries, the main network of trade and cultural transmission in Eurasia, opening long-distance, political and economic interactions between the civilizations.
Genghis Khan also has an incredible number of descendants, as some genetic studies have shown that he could be the direct ancestor of 1 human out every 200 who are alive today. In Mongolia alone as many as 200,000 of the country’s 2 million people could be Genghis Khan descendants.
 

Johny_Baba

अज्ञानी
Senior Member
Joined
May 21, 2016
Messages
2,444
Likes
10,995
Country flag
THEY FINALLY FOUND CHINGGIS' RESTING PLACE!


Mongolia: Archaeologists Unearth Tomb Of Genghis Khan
Construction workers employed in road building near the Onon River in the Khentii province of Mongolia, have discovered a mass ԍʀᴀvᴇ containing the remains of many ᴅozᴇɴs of human coʀᴘsᴇs lying upon a large rudimentary stone structure.

Forensic experts and archaeologists were called on the site, which was revealed to be a Mongolian royal tomb from the 13th century that the scientists believe to be Genghis Khan’s. The team of scientists affiliated with the University of Beijing has concluded that the numerous skeletons ʙuʀιᴇᴅ on top of the structure were most likely the slaves who built it and who were then мᴀssᴀcʀᴇᴅ to keep the secret of the location.
The ʀᴇмᴀιɴs of twelve horses were also found on the site, certainly sᴀcʀιғιcᴇᴅ to accompany the Great Khan in ᴅᴇᴀтн.

A total of 68 skeletons were found ʙuʀιᴇᴅ together, almost directly over the top of a rather crude stone structure
The content of the tomb was scattered and badly deteriorated, presumably due to the fact that the site was located beneath the river bed for hundreds of years until the course of the Onon river changed in the 18th century. The ʀᴇмᴀιɴs of a tall male and sixteen female skeletons were identified among hundreds of gold and silver artifacts and thousands of coins.

The women are presumed to have been wives and concubines of the leader, who were κιʟʟᴇᴅ to accompany the warlord in the afterlife. The amount of treasure and the number of sᴀcʀιғιcᴇᴅ animals and people, have immediately led the archaeologists to consider that the site was certainly the ʙuʀιᴇᴅ site of a really powerful Mongol warlord. After realizing an extensive set of tests and analysis, they were able to confirm that the ʙoᴅʏ belonged to a man aged between 60 and 75, who ᴅιᴇᴅ between 1215 and 1235 AD. Both the age, the date, the location, and the opulence of the site seem to confirm that the tomb does indeed belong to Genghis Khan

The simple rock dome discovered by the archaeologists, was presumably ʙuʀιᴇᴅ beneath the Onon river for centuries. The incontestable historical importance of Genghis Khan makes this new discovery one of the most important in the history of archaeology. Born Temüjin (which means “of iron”), he was the founder and ԍʀᴇᴀтκнᴀɴ (emperor) of the Mongol Empire, which became the largest contiguous empire in history after his demise. He is known for uniting the tribes of Mongolia and merging them into one before launching a series of military campaigns in cнιɴᴀ, Central Asia, the Middle East and even Eastern Europe. He conquered more than 31 million square kilometers of land during his lifetime. His legacy has taken many forms besides his conquest and can still be found today, making him one of the most influential men in the history of mankind.
He connected the East and the West through the creation of the Silk Route, a trade route that would become and remain for centuries, the main network of trade and cultural transmission in Eurasia, opening long-distance, political and economic interactions between the civilizations.
Genghis Khan also has an incredible number of descendants, as some genetic studies have shown that he could be the direct ancestor of 1 human out every 200 who are alive today. In Mongolia alone as many as 200,000 of the country’s 2 million people could be Genghis Khan descendants.
Reminder,

when the soviets ;disturbed; tomb of Taimur just after two days german attack on soviets started...
...
...
and when Stalin got it restored back within 20 some days they started winning against germans...
...
...

ab yeh Changez Khan ki kabr ko chhed diye hain,
udhar Ukraine me Russia ka 'special military operation' chal rha hain,
US of A ne Pelosi ko Taiwan bhejne ka program kra hain, aur china ne uske viruddh military action lene ki dhamki di hain..
if it wasn't all, Serbia vs Kosovo wapas shuru ho rha hain, smh...
...
is it happening ?!
 

Global Defence

Articles

Top