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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Kolkata class will also get retrofitted during their MLU dockings. Mountings have the necessary space and strengthening
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    The biggest mistake you will make is to view the CCP and PLA with the same lens as you do any other equivalent in the world. Nothing...NOTHING is said by anyone even remotely connected to either side in public without total and firm authorisation by the Ministry of State Security. Do not ever...
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    All those numbers about PLAN vsls are purely speculation as China does not release any official figures in public. The actual defense budget and costs of individual items are protected under State Security laws so don't expect to see any official numbers. Costs in China for ship building are not...
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    BrahMos is 30 cr per round...plus the UVLM system itself costs ard 15 cr per set
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    It is extremely cheap given that an AIM-120D costs close to US$3M each for FMS sales! But yes, cost is definitely a factor...BrahMos is even crazier per round
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    The P-17As will all be in service very soon. The methods being employed in construction are cutting edge and all 7 ships will be on the water in record time. In build phase they have therefore been allowed to have what is called reserve buoyancy. So the Nilgiri has sufficient space and buoyancy...
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    There is method behind the seeming madness. A ship is equipped to fight today's conflict but designed to fight tomorrow's. Weapon systems wise the country is at a pivot point right now where we are limited by currently available primary items like BrahMos & Barak-8 to a point not far in the...
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Partnership with Tata SED for MII. 23 systems in total will replace all LW-08L across the fleet https://m.economictimes.com/news/defence/tata-power-sed-bags-rs-1200-cr-contract-from-defence-ministry/articleshow/68521044.cms
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Just for comparison, take a look online at images of the Freedom class LCS heli hanger. It looks small and has a single door. I have personally been inside that hanger on both USS Fort Worth and USS Freedom and I can assure you they easily fit 02 x Sea Hawks inside there with space to spare. The...
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    MH 60 is significantly smaller in deck profile than the Sea King. It was designed as a single replacement for both the Sea King on large vessels and the Sea Sprite on smaller vessels so necessarily is small enough for the latter task. Of modern copters the AW 101 / Merlin is the one actually...
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    There is sufficient space inside for 02 medium copters like S-70B category or 01 large category like Sea King or Merlin + reserve space for UAVs etc Single door because the blast shield separating the 2 hangers has been removed as it was deemed restrictive. If you have 02 small spaces they can...
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Not to mention the 200 odd armed and angry crew members on board
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    They have built in ready upgrade-ability into all the recent designs. The major weapons systems like BrahMos are being replaced in the next 10 years when the much more compact NG version comes into service. The current space taken up by 08 BrahMos can house 12-16 BrahMos NG in a new UVLS module...
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    8 AshMs is the standard load out across the world for a surface combatant. Look across the USN fleet and all of them have ever since the Cold War era carried no more than 8 Harpoons (with a few exceptions like the reborn Iowa class battleships) The days of fleet scaled ship to ship warfare are...
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    After all 8 are fired then PKMKB happens and need for reload becomes irrelevant
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Yes I know. But I was pointing out the difference in running costs for 02 cruise diesels + 02 gas turbines vs 04 gas turbines is significant for the small difference in speed.
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    It's actually a fantastic design if you compare it with the Kolkata class. In terms of armament the Kolkata is superior only by 08 x BrahMos. In terms of raw performance in speed it falls short by 6 knots but does so at less than half the propulsion power (02 x main gas turbines vs 06 on the...
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Anyway this debate is of no meaning. The actual names will come out in a short while. Let's wait and see.
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Dhaulagiri (the actual mountain) is in Nepal so no the IN is not going to name a ship after it. Chandragiri is the sister hill of Vindhyagiri in Karnataka
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    Project-17A Nilgiri-class Frigate Thread

    Chandragiri most likely will be the 7th
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