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    Kaveri Engine

    This is in right direction. I am 100% certain that LCA Tejas will fly with Indian engine; and this may happen in next 5 years. The name of engine may change or it may be called Kavery, but it will definitely happen.
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    Kaveri Engine

    Seems like GTRE will launch a new engine project (under a new name) where the technology developed for Kavery will be used. The engine will be bigger and will be slated for AMCA. Collaboration with GE does not look like a real possibility. Americans are very secretive regarding aviation...
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    Kaveri Engine

    @ersakthivel, do we know the correct situation about who initiated the closure of Kavery? It could very well be DRDO. Perhaps we shall see a repackaging with name change - another engine with similar design - perhaps scaled up or scaled down - with new funding and new "long" timeline. We...
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    Kaveri Engine

    The last 10% is the most critical in an engineering project. Many projects get stuck at 80%-90% level. The learning of this last 10% is very critical. The project that replaces Kavery will also be lacking this "last mile" knowledge, and can get stuck at the same stage. New engine cannot be...
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    Kaveri Engine

    @halloweene, excellent words! I completely agree that GOI has made the same mistake time and again of frittering away knowledge gained. India does not realize the value of IP yet. I think Kavery program should be taken to completion (a working fighter engine) even if its specs are suboptimal...
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    Kaveri Engine

    Even a lower spec Kavery may be sufficient for LCA Tejas "attack" aircraft version. LCA Tejas lugs 3.5 tonnes which is similar to Mig-27. A LCA Tejas version with local MMR and local Kavery engine may cost about 18 million dollars. This is similar to Hawk trainer. Such an aircraft is ideal in an...
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    Kaveri Engine

    This is what I am saying also. Incompetence of HAL plays into any engine project. HAL has been unable to build competence in making engines. This is HAL's biggest failure. Any engine whether aero-engine or automobile engine, is an industrial project. GTRE does not have a magic wand. However I...
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    Kaveri Engine

    This is where DRDO made the mistake in Kavery. Mature production processes are required for DESIGN PROCESS ITSELF. How much industrial experience GTRE has?? You can buy machines for trial production but that does not give you experience. There is no substitute for experience. Only HAL has...
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    Kaveri Engine

    Only HAL has industrial facilities for building an aviation turbine. Show me where such facilities exist in GTRE?
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    Kaveri Engine

    The government has not yet taken a decision. DRDO is telling GOI we cannot deliver as per specs, which was probably well known for a long time. It does not mean that current turbine which produces x amount of thrust cannot be debugged and used. The turbine should be taken to its logical...
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    Kaveri Engine

    Let us see it this way. We have slightly more than 50% local content in LCA Tejas. We did that will an outlay of 3+ billion dollars. The remaining 50% will also need 3+ billion dollars. At least we need to budget that much.
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    Kaveri Engine

    What is your point? I already know what you just said. India produces missiles today because it persisted. There were plenty of failures. A country the size of India need to learn to be patient. Success will not come easily. I have full confidence in the scientists. These people need support...
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    Kaveri Engine

    @Android, just name change is not sufficient. If planning is faulty, the new project will also fail. The incompetence of HAL will play into ALL ENGINE PROJECTS. My opinion is clear - we must persist and remove roadblocks. Defeatist attitude IS NOT THE WAY.
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    Kaveri Engine

    Great inspiring words from many posters. I think the government has not abandoned the project yet. DRDO is correct as DRDO cannot meet IAF's goals. If DRDO is asked to chase an impossible dream, then the result will be failure only. IAF DOES NOT understand research and development. IAF has a...
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    Kaveri Engine

    Interesting news. If DRDO is asked to compete with GE, then answer will be failure only. The industrial infrastructure required for aero-engines is far greater than what is available in India today. The efforts to jump ahead do not always succeed. Some things need to be done step by step. I...
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    Kaveri Engine

    OK. My mistake. So GTRE is developing K10 on its own. If that is the case, I am happy.
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    Kaveri Engine

    "It is proposed to develop production version Kaveri (K10) engine on co-design & co-development basis with M/s Snecma, France. The technical evaluation for this proposal has been completed. Tender Purchase Committee (TPC) with members from DRDO, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), Indian Air...
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    Kaveri Engine

    I think GTRE has been pushed to match F414 specs. They are doing whatever they can.
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    Kaveri Engine

    No other engine for fighter aircraft. Kaveri is the only one.
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    Kaveri Engine

    When you develop things which are for same purpose and works the same way, the technology developed will be similar even if your intention is not to copy. It is a fact that American engine tech is far ahead of Russian. The American engines expose Indians to the best technology and naturally...
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