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here is what BR article says - http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Equipment/Armour/42-Arjun.html that should set at rest the chindits article. she is well known for posting such articles anyway.

this is good news and i hope the army orders in numbers!! did it have anything to do with T-95 cancellation?? they must have been hoping for it going by their history. any way good that the army is "seeing reason" atleast now. however till the orders come in ink we need to wait. Manc, as...

no problem brother. i don't want to take it any further. i appreciate your clarification. /////////

as you may have seen there are conflicting sources and hence the confusion. if i am indian army then i will think of the "worst case scenario!!" when did i say media is always credible?? how do i know where he gets his info, what his sources are?? he is the best person to answer that...

ok. so what does it mean? about the Knol link you gave? does it mean it is "not credible" or "credible" according to you? point here is not about engine. RATHER replacement of the engine during breakdowns which means, we are talking tank design which makes it possible and not the...

right. but i have given my sources too which contradict that. also lets take a look at the link you gave in the previous post - http://knol.google.com/k/t-90# so it is T-84 (an upgraded T-80UD, with 1200 hp engine) which pakistan bought. that should be clear enough. but the...

sir, i said, generally, open sources about such matters are undervalued by the armed forces/govt's for a reason (to fool the adversaries and keep them guessing and surprise them at the hustings!!) whereas you said it is exaggerated. it is clear we disagree. so agree to disagree is what i meant...

Pakistan made it a point to ukraine to put 1200hp engine. i have posted the links in this or the al khalid thread. it will be tough getting them but will try and post later. you have given your link and i have given mine but the reality is Pakistan's T-80UD does have 1200hp engine as per the...

ofc you can beleive the quoted figures are exaggerated. may be some member here like Ray sir can can throw more light on this. i have not seen any info in open domain as of now. since you have answered Chackojoseph on those points, i hope he responds. will wait. indeed. it wil be...

it may cost 16lakhs, 16 rupees or peanuts. point is all inclusive cost is 17.5 crore, as proven by Ajai. and i am happy he is my own. oooooooooooooooooooo

what my source is?? i gave 2!! as you can read from both the links i gave T-80 UD originally was 1000hp. but an upgraded 1200hp engine version is what pakistan bought which is also called T-80UD for export version while Ukraine calls it T-84. as simple as that.

i have already said range and testing of it etc are details we will not get as open source. at best the ranges quoted are undervalued. fine. i have read somewhere that - to change the engine in T-72, you need to remove the turret!! which takes almost the whole day and T-90 being a...

ofcourse Arjun does not sport APS as of now. with APS it will cost as much as T-90. no doubts here. however that cost will go down when economic scale of production kicks in because it uses raw materials from india where as T-90 is assembled as of now under license where in SKD kits and later...

then how do you explain the power/wt. ratio?? you can read too. T-84 is the ukrainian name for T-80UD upgraded with a better 1200hp diesel engine and ERA that is all. pakistan got the upgraded one. you call it T-84 or upgraded T-80UD. both are same. from soviet times it is the practice to name...

that is 2006 news. no body denies that. but what T-90 includes in that package is the bone of contention and which is why Ajai shukla came up with the investigative report which puts the cost at 17.5 CRORE a piece, including the missing systems from the earlier agreement putting the cost at 12...

well, i am an indian. however i am more concerned about IA which resists a superior tank to an inferior one!! wrong. Power-to-weight ratio: 26.08 hp/t http://www.pakdef.info/pakmilitary/army/tanks/t80ud.html of course you may choose not to accept. but my concern for our army...

you never get such figures about tests and ranges achieved in open source. most of them will be classified. the fact that they have been tested and are on Arjun tank does say something that you or me can ever get from open source info...

you beleive russians on their claims easily while you raise doubts about the israelis about their claims when i have already given a link which says it has been tested and approved in india. kanchan armour!! means they have to come back to DRDO for protection!! good. ERA is designed to...

i am not going to dispute that. you may be right but this still applies for a tank firing on another tank direct LOS. but LAHAT can have an LOS designated by another tank at a different place closer to the enemy tank or even by air by a heli or a UAV. that the range is 8km is proven and accepted...

pakistan's T-80 tank has an uprated engine 1200hp where as our T-90 are 1000hp which itself is in doubt (supposedly only 840hp). also pakisatan's T-80 have an APU of 18kw, allowing them to operate in silent mode, whereas our T-90's have 1kw APU's!!! T-80 fires same, is protected similarly like...