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  1. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Different muzzle brake/compensator or a plug ?? Also it has no optics as well as gun slings.. Seems like this piece's just unpacked given the read-me tag it has. The finish of gun as evident in close-up shots is simply awesome; OFB needs to take note of that !!
  2. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    I agree to what you are saying. My contention is with the range figure that you mentioned. What do you expect from a jawan who was earlier having INSAS and now getting SIGs without optics. There engagement range with BUIS will be remain same or slight improvement of say 100 yards IMO. Even...
  3. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Well I wrote this figure conservatively based on the rifles it is replacing (as you mentioned in the post). With scope, the G2 SS-GP version perform quite well up to 1000 yards. For DI SIG, I am hopeful that it could match the G2 but again to exploit this capability you need to train your...
  4. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    They need a good 4x-6x scope for engagements at 200-400 m at LOC/LAC, these ARs are not for CQB. A tender for 12000 telescopic sights was floated last year. There is no news regarding award of contract though...
  5. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Takeaways from Paki Trials of their AR Replacement program by an US representative; (Not sure whether it is posted before ) " The AR10-type weapon is inherently accurate especially when compared to other service rifles, but the design leaves it very susceptible to dirt and debris. Adding a...
  6. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Superlike !! I was about to post the video of this channel for Type 56 (Chinese AK) where it performed pretty well at even 500 yards with Iron Sights. Sadly, the Tavor in the same set-up performed poorly. Henry Chan regards 7.62x39 very high based on the performance of various AK types in his...
  7. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Agree. The SSS has to prove itself before talking big but at the same time, the Govt could also follow hand-holding approach for these local enterprises. It seems "Vocal for Local" is meant for sarkari OFB and DPSUs only as we are seeing HAL making forays into LUH deal for Navy which is somewhat...
  8. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    The gas block of this rifle seems a bit different. I am not sure whether its SIG G2 Patrol or some other AR-10 model? Experts may help ?? @Gessler @Johny_Baba @vampyrbladez This is the SIG 716 G2 Patrol gas block.
  9. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    If possible, cancel the whole plan of equipping army with AK-203 as the standard issue firearm. Rather explore SSS P-72 if it can compete along the AKs. Induction of SIGs could provide buffer for a couple of years till we select a local candidate with its own IPRs for AR production . The whole...
  10. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    'There is no official word on the SIG 716 model that IA has procured; however as deduced by @Gessler et. al in this thread from first pictures of SIGs (Courtesy Livefist ) in the hands of Indian soldier, the model on offer is a DI based AR rather the SS piston based G2 Patrol/ SIG .308 DMR...
  11. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Nice Review of SIG 716i Tread. I expect the version IA is getting is similar to this one. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/05/11/sig-sauer-tread/ Gladly, the reviewer has found issue with the trigger system only in the whole analysis. His Final Words: From the review it appears...
  12. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Quite a baseless charge; Replacement of vintage INSAS and equipping infantry soldier to teeth should be at highest priority rather than getting some futuristic battlefield management system. On price part, he is wrong too; He should rather ask OFB for rates they are charging for local...
  13. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Good candidate for carbine procurement. Sig could also offer its MCX line for SBR requirements in IA and special forces. ' It is confirmed now that the whole lot of ARs are being delivered. I like the coverage of ANI, Unlike Livefist, they didn't commit error to put AR version as G2 Patrol...
  14. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Well I have my doubts with this statement; may be it's implying that 10000 AR batch supplied earlier which Livefist has reported. Kudos to SIG if they delivered the whole lot of contracted rifles in a year & half despite Covid situation (Contract signed in Feb, 2019). Would like to learn about...
  15. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    As discussed plenty of times, the need of SIGs in Indian Army is not 72400 pieces alone. Would have been better if SIG was encouraged to do local production in India through JV.
  16. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Further, I don't understand how the iron sight would work with protruded rail mount over the dust cover. Again, they produced some kind of patch work. The mag-well lip could have extended a little more to provide AR style grip. Seems like they sleep for whole year and wake up only to showcase...
  17. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Yeah, in fact , in that post you have firing videos of .308 cal rifles based Long stroke (OFB), Short Stroke (G2 Patrol), and DI (TREAD). Only a user can tell about the real difference in recoil, as it's apparent that DI doesn't reduce recoil substantially.
  18. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    Both have similar recoil, difference being the camera is placed far closer to the one firing the SIGs. It also shows that DI gives a bit lower recoil as SIG 716 G2 Patrol.
  19. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    It is mind boggling that such a wide-scale adoption of new assault rifle for front-line troops is based on cost alone, devoid of any doctrinal approach & past experience. It may be brutal shock to those who were singing paeans about reliability of INSAS under so called Indian conditions. Now...
  20. piKacHHu

    Indian Army SIG Sauer 716 assault rifle.

    "Introducing the all new 716 SIG TREAD 308 AR-10 Rifle, It is lightweight, Accurate and crafted from the finest components at the best possible price. The SIG Sauer 716 TREAD 308 Rifle is a price sensitive direct-impingement AR 10 Rifle platform. Manufactured to compete with the top AR 10 Rifle...
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