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  1. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    Yeah, I'm aware of it. To achieve 11G you need much higher structural limit. Rafale's should be above 16G.
  2. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    That's BS. And I'm not replying to the other posts because not even a single one of them make sense.
  3. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    I already posted a pic of a Rafale pilot pulling 10G on Rafale. That's 1G more than the "supposed" limit. Here is a pilot pulling 11.2G. This guy easily manages 12G. And claims he's done this 50 times. Here's an interesting article. Physiological Effects of Positive G Forces Naturally a...
  4. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    India needs Rafale specifically. India needed Mirage-2000 specifically, and that changed to Rafale since threat perceptions have changed. Requirements change every few years. The Chinese have become the third country in the world to have an operationally deployed AESA radar on a fighter jet...
  5. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    Stop talking when all you do is spout crap. The other contenders could see what's in the bid. The requirements were common to all the contenders. If IAF has made a mockery of the process, then all other contenders would have appealed against it. Do you see even one country complaining? No...
  6. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    Yes. Well trained pilots can pull up to 12G. Astronauts pull 17G when the rocket escape system is activated. When pilots eject from aircraft, they are pulling close to 25G. Pic of Rafale pulling 10G.
  7. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    None of those. IAF has always wanted Rafale. L1 is a disease created by the UPA. EF fulfills all the MRCA requirements since the aircraft was shortlisted, just that Rafale is simply the better aircraft. As far as MRCA is concerned, IAF got the aircraft that they wanted at the cheapest...
  8. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    In terms of performance, the F-35 is at the same level as the F/A-18 or the F-16. It does not have the speed, maneuverability, climb rates, Gs, turn rates etc compared to the Eurocanards. It is probably good in subsonic acceleration, but that's about it. It is simply a fat duck. While the F-35A...
  9. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    If, hypothetically speaking, EFT is a Billion cheaper, even then Rafale is the better option. It is a superior bird "for us." Think of it this way, whatever advantages Rafale has over other jets will come into use later in the future also. Whatever advantages EF holds over other jets...
  10. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    Okay, so they have jacked it up to Euro 60 Billion and people here expect them to give a discount. So, that's Euro 430 Million per aircraft for its entire lifecycle, or $600 Million per jet. That's roughly 5-6 times the unit cost. What a bad joke.
  11. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    Give me proof. True. But negotiations go beyond requirements. And they won't loot us? Especially when it is painfully obvious Typhoon is more expensive? The price they are giving us is the lowest possible price for Rafale. Check the price of Rafales in the senate article Halloweene...
  12. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    @halloweene Do you have the link for the German news report which said the Typhoon program is over Euro 90 Billion now? Can you post it if you do?
  13. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    Even if the information is real, they are clearly lying. How can they give a discount that even Typhoon partners cannot get one? Is Germany paying the remainder in royalty to the other countries? I'm sure Italy will be the first to stand in line when Germany's giving stuff away at a discount...
  14. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    How is Admiral Arun Prakash not a source? The prices came from him. Modi will do no such thing. Neither will Jet-Li. Romeo will not die.
  15. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    But that is not how it works. How much is the cost of 3 years of negotiation? What is the cost of the 60 extra added features on Rafale? What is the cost of finishing development of Typhoon in order to bring it to Rafale's level? These are more important questions now. The cost...
  16. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    It was missed by many people but Admiral Arun Prakash had made it public back in 2011. The Mig-35 costs $45 Million, F-16 costs $60 Million, SH costs $60.2 Million, Gripen costs $82.2 Million, Rafale costs $85.5 Million and Typhoon costs $124 Million. After Rafale and Typhoon were shortlisted...
  17. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    126 Rafales at $85.5 Million is $10.8 Billion. 126 Typhoons at $124 Million is $15.6 Billion. If the Germans reduced Typhoon's price by a Billion, then it will still be $4 Billion more than Rafale. It's effing common sense.
  18. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    No such thing. Rafale was offered at $85.5 Million as unit price. Typhoon was offered at $124 Million. And Rafale is more developed. Just bringing Typhoon to Rafale's level will increase costs further and India will be forced to bear some of the expenses. That Typhoon discount offer is...
  19. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    The design specifications were delivered. The engine delivery is yet to happen. Not sure about the model. That was the last known information about the program.
  20. p2prada

    Know Your 'Rafale'

    Just knowing the deal is being prepped for signature is big news. Even the govt won't really know when they can sign because MoF will have queries along with CCS. Dassault and MoD will have to clear those queries and that can take a month, maybe more. There are minimum number of days that the...
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