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Yeah. we will see stuff they cannot even hope to induct with their budget. If Russia violates MTCR, then US will follow suit, followed by China. We don't need MIRV technology anyway. Let's not forget we hold the world record for max number of satellite launches in a single launch. He is...

One more pic.

Damian was talking about a tank which is a 4th generation tank, or the F-22 of the tank world. It is called the Object 195. Seems it is open for export to, most likely, India. There is no tank which can kill it and all current tanks are like pudding in front of it's 152mm gun.

It is an indigenous version. Dunno if there is a plan for another BLT with Poland. Arjun BLT Armored Bridgelayer | Military-Today.com

Hmm. No. When MKI was configured the Russians did not have much. I was talking about MKM, which came well after MKI hit production. Akulas, we do have em. International treaties restrict Topol export. We would have purchased 1500Km cruise missiles for our Talwar class ships and Kilo class...

Will never be revealed. IA's opsec laws are draconian. Maybe will be revealed after a decade or two after the tank is phased out.:thumb: Russian defence industry exists for India, not Russia. They will sell anything to us, their best stuff included.:lol:

Perhaps this. First tank, heavy tank blah blah. DRDO, pride, prestige, profit. Thankfully, IA isn't dumb enough to buy all that pseudo-nonsense BS.

Well, IA termed the Arjun as a vintage design. There is no surprise it belongs to vintage tanks in terms of crew protection.

You mean the Merkava vs Abrams(Page 6) discussion you had in israelimilitary forum, probably 5 posts, about it with Sgt Cav sometime back in 2010. Interesting that you bring it up, but he does not agree with you.

From what I know, US was closest to Pakistan because of the Soviet Afghan War at the time of the Abrams evaluation. That's when the US turned a blind eye to Pakistan's open statements about development of nuclear weapons followed by actual development and deployment of nukes, starting a...

IA has currently standardized on T-90 which is an upgraded T-72. So, you can consider them to be one and the same. 20 years after T-90 is first fielded the FMBT will be inducted. That effectively gives 50 years for the T-72/T-90 tanks. FMBT will continue to be the standard MBT until some time in...

If the Arjun Mk1 needs to be compared to any tank, then it has to be with a tank that was designed in that timeframe, ie, late 80s and early 90s. There was no major evolution to the design only until now(Mk2). Maybe if a Mk3 is designed, then we may see much larger changes. Let's see how FMBT...

IIRC, I think Arjun's turret weighs close to 20 tons. The gun weighs 2025 Kg. The hull weighs closer to 40 tons, max. Chassis weight is impossible to find out without having the tank itself or proper documents.

A lot of our stuff is similar to already designed stuff. We aren't copying, but our designers aren't creative enough when they started off. The Chinese have the same problem, but people call it copying. There is no German designer called Krauss. The person who created Krauss Co(George...

Ah! My bad. Not such a good tank IMO. Arjun is better than this in some respects. Well! The Italians have their pride. Do we need to go as far as turret bustle? Arjun has this drawback, but it may not be a major obstacle in a tank vs tank battle within a smaller safe maneuvering angle, unless...

All NATO tanks do. Try to sell Arjun to any NATO country and it won't even pass initial requirements. CVRDE is not German. Arjun is an Indian design. German help was most probably used in Armour and regular consultation. Nobody will help India in designing a tank even today. Leo 2A4 has...

I wasn't aware of that. I know the Russians cannot very well afford it and I doubt India can now considering Arjun is being shoved down the Army's throat anyway, more or less, if the second order for 248 comes through. I can't think of any other country being able to fund the Obj 195 beyond...

Hopefully, the tank will be unveiled to the public next year. Can't wait to see how the US might react if the tank lives up to expectations. You can expect Armata to be better than the T-90MS at least. It would be a humongous achievement if it turns out the tank is better than Obj 195.

No need to get your panties in a bunch. I was sarcastic there. Since you are a new guy I will let it slide since you don't know me. Stick around, read a few posts. I have been called "worse" than a Russian fanboy.

I don't know which rock you guys were living under but anybody who praises Russian weapons are worse than fanboys and probably have "Russian cold" from the Cold War era. :laugh: I don't think you guys have been watching other threads, especially Indian Air force subforum, but it has been well...