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Re: HJT 36 Project a complete failure They always forget the 200000 DRDO/OFB tank shells we had to destroy right after Op Parakram.

Re: HJT 36 Project a complete failure This ain't sarcasm, TB.

Re: HJT 36 Project a complete failure They think they are so smart that they believe they will always build to specification the first time, that considering we don't even have proper engine technology. An overweight aircraft is always bound to fail. They are just going to sit around...

Re: HJT 36 Project a complete failure They should have brought it back to the drawing board when the new engine was chosen. They would have done a better job.

You seem to have misunderstood his remark. He meant to say the design is so good that people will find it hard to believe it was actually designed in India.

Kerala? :P

@venkat Should be interesting times for you guys there.

Obvious. If HAL starts now, they will take at least 10 years to make one. Hawk will be cheaper since so many countries are using it. So, it's not expensive.

HAL wants to make it, not necessary that IAF will buy it.

IAF plans engineering college in Bangalore | idrw.org Hmm. Looks like an emergency purchase due to Sitara's delays.

Yeah. That's the problem. Haha! No thanks. Not with a guy who thinks air combat is like this,

The information is too vague. Actually I have never followed the IJT history at all. I just read whatever is posted on the forum. Naturally we need someone on the inside to write a book about it. That's how we civilians get info.

Venkat can you find out some of the reasons internally, managers, colleagues?

What a pain!!! Even trainers are delayed.

It looks like a scan from a brochure and the brochure was folded prior to scanning.

Haha! Isn't it funny how people who are intimately involved with the defence industry(like you, Ray sir, Lemontree) or even have an inkling of going on's of the defence industry(like Satish and I) have no hopes in it while those who have no idea are such amazing optimists even if facts speak...

Aren't the Italians smart! The Koreans developed the T-50 to replace their T-38 trainer. In turn, the Italians and Russians slightly modified the Yak-130 called it the M-346 in Italy and are calling it the T-100 in the US and are selling it as a successor to the T-38. If USAF purchases...

Not unexpected because IAF ended up buying Hawks, but that was a pending request since decades. Oh well! Maybe IAF will be interested in a LIFT program for PAKFA and AMCA, unless IAF believes Hawk is more than enough. This is what is disappointing. We have to export trainers even now. I would...

The M-346, Hawk and T-50, cost the same. I think the M-346 will be cheaper because it is an extension of the already developed Russian Yak-130. Some reports they said M-346 is the top contender. T-50, as a trainer is far superior or you can say overkill for training needs. Quite like LCA. But...

Re: HAL's HJT-36 Sitara Project Struggling I agree, all of our trainers are new orders or will be once Sitara is done. Damn, if ADA was any faster maybe the trainer version of LCA could have seen a potential USAF operator, maybe even USN. Both Mk1 designs for the Navy and Air Force fit...