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  1. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Key is thrust to weight ratio and wing loading(fighters that have to take off from High Himalayan fields with reasonable bobmb loads have to be low wing loading. F-16 , the latest version which participated in MMRCA with far higher TWR than JF-17 failed in this test in LEh as part of MMRCA process.)
  2. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    hmmm, Actually all indians are heartily supporting more and more Jf-17 induction into PAF.
  3. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Never mind, both the specs are still a bundle of lies. So no need to do research on who is right.They never completed any IOC or FOC with any reasonable spec authentications. No one knows what kind of avionoics it has got other than the "original manufacturer" kamra defence complex of...
  4. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    many a times people fool others by advertising total load carrying capacity of wing pylons and passing it off as max weapon load. the important question is what is the max take of weight? Is it also going to increase by a ton? Otherwise it is the same old plane with no aerodynamic or...
  5. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    No one buys a half finished obsolete plane that is not going to be inducted in home country(china) in large numbers, when they have enough money in their hand!!!!!! No scope for further intensive development in its r&D and no scope for any technical grievance redressal in case there Saudi...
  6. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    too busy killing its large scale induction potential in IAf and siultaneously killing it's export market. The leading test pilot of tejas mk-1 after IOC-2 has said that tejas mk-1 is atleast equal to the upgraded Mirage-2000 (upgrade of one mirage-2000 alone costs twice the tejas mk-1 brand new...
  7. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Interception is one thing in terminal phase. Your missile may have 400 Km range, no doubt, But the IR seeker or radiation seeker of the missile will acquire the AC only at a distance of about les than 50 Km. Till the missile reaches the 50 Km distance point near the ship , it has to be...
  8. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    So do you think that there is no possibility in the world to spoof IR seeker? haven't you seen simple flares dropped by fighters? and other so called multiple seekers !!!!
  9. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    they don't have to intercept it. Suffice it they jam the small seeker on the missile with their massive ECM suite , which is a child's play for an AC.
  10. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    official source is not some one's word!!!!! A link in the official page of the manufacturer who made JF-17. For ex , ADA has officially stated that tejas has cleared 24 deg for IOC-2 and it will be raised to 26-28 deg in FOC in the official presentation listed in ADA tejas thread. Something...
  11. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    if you google you can find all the proofs, if not let me know, the proofs in int he INS Vikramadhitya thread on this forum as well. thanks for the debate mate, i will wait for some official source from you on a simple thing called AOA of JF-17 and will respond then with proof.
  12. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Systems on board IN AC Vikramadhitya can put out a blanket ECM for around 400 Km blinding the many times powerful ECM suits on Su -35 fighters.This capacity was tested in trials before the AC was handed over to india. And In is going to beef it up several times before putting it into...
  13. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    I was making the comparison of JF-17's ECM suite to the more than hundred times powerful ECM suit of INS Vikrmadhithya and its sister ships. because it was reported that during trials even Su-30 could not target the ship piercing through the powerful ECM suit. It will be upgraded to much higher...
  14. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    And no JF-17 is ever going to penetrate the ECM measures on any indian AC to get into firing range and stands a chance against Naval tejas mk-2 and Mig-29 fighters on borad as jf-17 is markedly inferior to both of them on all counts, In a recent exercise no russian fighter was able to...
  15. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    That was not Shukla's word. Shukla quoted the test pilot of tejas who said that tejas mk-1 atleast equals upgraded mirage-2000 in performance. And AOA figures of tejas mk-1 are from certified agencies. Not some pilot quote as the JF-17 AOA you quote.
  16. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    8Gs okay , not 6G, mistake on my part, The Tejas AOA of 24 for IOC-2 is given by the manufacturer in the release to service document, And it is slated to go over 26 deg in FOC, And AOA increase beyond 26 deg may continue even after FOC as per the test pilot statement , So it is...
  17. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Go back and clearly read what your squadron commander said on JF-17, he clearly says , he has to stop ,"either " at 26 deg AOA or 6gs in sustained turn, Even Mirage-2000 in the seventies pulled 28 deg AOA,Now Jf-17 can't pull 26 deg AOA if it reaches 6Gs first, That is the acute problem of...
  18. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    I don't know from where you got the 14-16 deg AOA for tejas!!!!!!!! Mate the declared AOA for tejas IOC-2 is 24 -26 deg AOA by the release to service document of ADA, For FOC it is 26 to 28 deg AOA, And as per award winning senior test pilot's words AOA will incremental testing will go...
  19. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    tejas may reach an AOA of 26 to 28 deg is the official info. What is the AOA limit of JF-17?, Is there a 58 percent chance the PAF (which owns 58 percent of the IPR rights!!!!) know the exact figure? it seems to be a closely guarded secret(?!?) even more than the RCS figure of F-22!!!!! Or...
  20. ersakthivel

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    The JF-17 you quoted as 1296 km/h is the top speed at sea level(for tejas it is 1350 km per hour), The tejas top speed quoted as 1920 km/h is at 50000 ft, i.e at ceiling altitude. Jf-17 too will have similar top speeds, mach 1.6 as per some reports. For tejas it is also mach 1.6 now post...
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