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  1. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    न स्वर्गो नापवर्गो वा नैवात्मा पालौकिकः | नैव वर्णश्रमादिनां क्रियाश्च फालदायिकः || There is no svarga, no apavarga, no atma in another world, Nor are the...
  2. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Actually, it shows atheists/agnostics winning over theists. The people who chose the third option are agnostics.
  3. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Oh God, you're actually serious. :rofl: I'm sorry, my knowledge is too feeble to be in the company of such great minds. I must excuse myself from this discussion.
  4. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    WTF? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Ancient Indians were a space-faring civilization with nuclear weapons, spaceships, and beam weaponry. Happy? :pound:
  5. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    What is your point? Are you challenging the notion that Magadha in the 6th century B.C.E. was a very religious society overall, or that Buddha believed in karma/reincarnation? The modern inhabitants of Magadha are extremely religious even today, and comparatively few are atheists, rationalists...
  6. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    A human who has suffered extensive brain damage and has entered a chronic coma has no "consciousness". It is not possible for a human to experience consciousness without a brain, because like all other phenomena, consciousness is nothing more than a result of physical interaction between matter...
  7. civfanatic

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    They were perceived as "fringe idiots" only by the majority, who were the true idiots. Just as people like Galileo were seen as heretical crackpots for the time, when they were entirely right. When you live in a society dominated by irrational religious dogma, the few rationalists who speak the...
  8. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    What is wrong with saying so? Concepts of "karma" and "reincarnation" cannot be scientifically proven. As far as I am concerned, they are indeed bogus. I have no reason to take the word of so-called "meditation masters". Also, what "civilization" did Ajita Kesakambalin and the Charvaks belong...
  9. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Actually, my signature at the time I made the post was completely different. It had something to do with the concept of morality being bullshit, but I forgot the exact quote. Also, no one who has not also governed a country has a right to criticize someone else as "spineless", and I am sure you...
  10. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Like Known Unknown said, people find their own individual "meaning" to life. Usually, it is things like family, friends, interests/hobbies, etc. that keep people going. So, even though there is no "grand meaning" to our existence, we can still find happiness in little things in life, which give...
  11. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    IMO, religion and belief in the "Divine" is a sign of mental weakness. It shows an inability to face the world for what it is: an empty, meaningless, shell, in which our individual lives have no inherent meaning.
  12. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Yes, it is still part of the broad 'Dharmic' tradition. But it is unique from both 'mainstream' Hinduism as well as heterodox sects like Buddhism and Jainsm. Maybe Sikhism deserves a separate category of its own.
  13. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Thanks for the info. But is it correct to say that Sikhism shows a mix of Dharmic and Abrahamic influences?
  14. civfanatic

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    So true, yet people still hold on to these false promises. Such is the ability of the human mind to delude itself.
  15. civfanatic

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    Well, Sikhism is monotheistic, which shows Islamic/Abrahamic influence right? Honestly I don't know the intricacies of either religion.
  16. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Buddhism and Jainism are nastika schools of thought. In their true, original form, they cannot even be classified as religions. Neither Buddha nor Mahavira made any mention of "God". Sikhism is a unique case as it is a mix of Dharmic and Abrahamic thought, which is reflected in its theology...
  17. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Re: Salam, Schalom, Namaste! Yes. The religion of the pre-Zoroastrian Iranians was very similar (if not the very same) to that of the Vedic Indians. Also, the language of these early Iranians was Avestan, which is mutually comprehensible with Vedic Sanskrit. Zarathustra/Zoroaster was opposed...
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    Re: Salam, Schalom, Namaste! In Zoroastrianism, Ohrmazd (Ahura Mazda) is the personification of Good and Ahriman (Angra Mainyu) is the personification of Evil. Only Ohrmazd is worshipped, not Ahriman. The Zoroastrian concept of moral dualism was adopted by the Abrahamic religions and is...
  19. civfanatic

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Re: Salam, Schalom, Namaste! The first monotheistic religion was Zoroastrianism. There is a very heavy Zoroastrian influence on Christianity and Islam by way of Judaism. Many modern aspects of Abrahamic religions were adopted by the Jews from the Persians when Cyrus liberated them from Babylon...
  20. civfanatic

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    I consider blind devotion and imaginary spiritual existentialism to be impediments to progress. Indians need to be more materialistic, but not to the extent of the West. We should once again follow the "Middle Path" :namaste:
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