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We have signed a deal for 1000 PRIMA 2 units to be built in a factory currently being built in Bihar.

I don't believe starting reactive effort can be increased by adding more locos in series. If you have any information to the contrary please enlighten me!

Anyhoo now it seems we're getting the ones from GE below very very TFTA videos:P The GE Evolution series 4

Also before i forget the locos we are getting are customized non articulated six axle co-co versions of the Prima 2, i.e they will be one unit not double units! It seems our entire debate here has been quite meaningless it seems:P

@pmaitra - THE 2ES5 is manufactured in both 2 section types and 3 section types by ALSTOM for the Russian Railways, it's a modular design and 2 or 3 modules can be added as required. You are correct when we speak of horsepower alone , but as i pointed out earlier in terms of starting tractive...

It's a workhorse for sure! Anyhoo I believe this deal is much like that for the initial batch of ALCOs wherein the OEM builds the factory & the first tranche. We shall build many more of these at home once the technology has been completely absorbed into the workshops.

Anyhoo I was wrong in selection of the locomotive type. It seems we shall be getting a custom version of the six axle co co version of the alstom prima 2 locomotive. http://www.alstom.com/press-centre/2015/11/alstom-to-supply-800-double-electric-locomotives-to-indian-railways/...

@pmaitra But then I've never seen a 2ES5 operating as a single unit. I believe it's designed from the ground up to work as a set of two( your point) working homogeneously as a single unit.coupling two engines together is not homogeneous and wastes more energy. Also what about starting tractive...

Look we can put ten WAG 9'S in a series and say we have the most powerful locomotive in the world rated at 61250hp, that is simply stupidity. As far as the ALSTOMS are concerned you might say they are two units but as far as the IR is concerned they are one unit as they are designed, built ...

I may be incorrect there however it does not change the fact that the WAP 7 is a passenger loco and what we are buying is freight locos, there the ALSTOMS outpace our domestic freight locos.

The WAP 7 is also by default 2 units with two cabs i.e. each unit is 3125 HP. Anyhoo the WAP 7 is primarliy a passenger loco without the type of load haulage capacity for which we are purchasing the ALSTOMS. The Heaviest Freight loco we use is the WAG 9 There are two primary criteria to be...

What we build is comparable to Older model, low powered western locomotives! Except for the WDG 5 no other domestically produced loco( electric or diesel) comes close in terms of horsepower. As far as efficiency and emission controls are concerned nothing we have comes close to the GE EVOLUTION...

Nobody is selling that tech, as for indigenous development it's gonna take time. This loco buy is designed to buy us that time!

We build nothing comparable to these locos, what we have is vastly inferior both in terms of fuel efficiency and pulling power! This is a technological upgrade similar to the one where the IR moved from steam to diesel and electric locos.

The Electric ALSTOMs should either be a modified version of the 2 ES 5 series or the KZ8A series, both of them fit the 12000 bhp bracket. kz8a series THE 2ES5

The 4000 hp diesels are probably going to come from the GE Powerhaul series https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GE_PowerHaul The 6000 hp Diesels might be the Feted Evolution series tier four ones with very stringent emission control

http://www.livemint.com/Industry/xdbm66bJSweP2W1wUUVDrI/GE-bags-26-billion-contract-from-Indian-Railways.html This is going to change the Industrial landscape of Bihar completely!

http://www.thebetterindia.com/22019/kings-circle-station-model-railway-station/ Truly commendable, why can't the mainstream media report such positive news.

Talgo is a well established player,I believe that they'll possibly be testing the T250 or the XXI between the cities. T250 XXI