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  1. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    I sincerely hope IA replaces all T-72s with Arjuns or Karan MBTs. Otherwise 10 years from now, we will have the same problems with the T-72s as we face for Mig-21s - only difference being the T-72s will be blown into the sky before they fall down ...
  2. ace009

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    That's considering that NATO will remain relevant in another 20-30 years. The way things are going, USA will bail on European security in a decade or so, after which either EU members have to take their own security in their own hands as EU or as individual nations.
  3. ace009

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    Call yourself WHATEVER you want - middle Europe, Central Europe, Western slavic nation - point has NOTHING to do with your heritage or your ethnicity, but everything to do with your geographical location. Time and time again in the last 1000 years, Poland has been claimed, reclaimed, fought...
  4. ace009

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    @ Damian - for someone who claims to study history and be a military professional - you sit between Western Europe, who still do not think very highly of the Eastern European nations and Russia, who is trying to be more and more assertive in what it considers it's "backyard" - and you say you do...
  5. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    Unless you are fighting in a heavily urban area or surroundings ... Lahore? Islamabad? Karachi maybe? :D
  6. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    I see - you are a right wing libertarian! Hmmm - you and I should have a discussion about Libertarian and Liberals - socialists and "right wingers" - but not here. As for Europe, I would anyday like to have a demilitarized Europe than a pre-world war (or even a cold war) Europe, with ENORMOUS...
  7. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    "Right Wing Liberals" Now there is an oxymoron if I ever heard one!! Pick your poison dude - Right Wing OR liberal ... can't have conflicts there - can we? :D
  8. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    You "are" right ... as in "I am right" to have right means to be able to do something by Law. So, at least in this case you are wrong. :D
  9. ace009

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    In some discussions I read that Russian ammo is two piece, due to technological limitations, and is not as strong as current NATO once piece ammo. Also due to the autoloader size requirements, typical Russian ammo penetration rods are shorter than current NATO penetration rods. What do you know...
  10. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    Right P2Prada - you know best - T-90 is the best ... Arjun is a heavy category tank - T series is a medium category tank. Comparing them and saying T-90 is better than Arjun is like saying the Panzer iV is better than the King Tiger - I give up. You win ... no point arguing with asinine...
  11. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    This is what is called name calling and insulting, what you condemn others for ... T-80 is based upon T-64 design and T-90 is based on T-72 design. T-72 comes from Obeykt-172, while T-64 comes from T-62. Both of these designs are descendants of T-55. While T-55 design was directly...
  12. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    For all the clever claims about T-90s - here's what a Tank expert had to say ... M1A2 vs T-80U
  13. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    Simulated battle tests published officially? What do you think you are dealing with? The US Army? this is the Indian Army dude - nothing is officially acknowledged till years later. Here is the media report ... Arjun tank outruns, outguns Russian T-90
  14. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    My bad - it was the T-80BV in the Chechen wars - right? Same basic design, different version, different name. The T-90 were some upgraded armor due to the huge casualties of the Chechen war on the T-80BV. Unfortunately, Armor vs AP rounds are a race and by the time the T-90 appeared, their armor...
  15. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    Too busy to check - will do when I have time. But my beef is, Arjun armor IS comparable to the western ones, which makes it definitely superior to the T-90, by your admission. The firepower of the Arjun is definitely better, as has been proven already, which you acknowledge. The engine specs...
  16. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    Hey - each to his own - I like info, you like insults ... :D Seriously P2Prada - you have been handed your ass by Archer, by still tom tom about the T-90. I will reply to your claims and re-claims again and again - but these days I am a little busy to do all the research - will get there...
  17. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    After reading your long rant, all I can think of is - "WTF?". So, you based your "assessment" on what? The performance differences between the Arjun and T-90 means squat in "real" engagements - right! As far as I know, every country claims their tank is the best - the Brits swear by the...
  18. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    This is again after the tests in India where Arjuns blew the T-90s out of the ground. Man - are you biased or what? Anyway, I know you are ful of it, because anyday, I would take practical results from the ground than theoretical BS from you.
  19. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    It seems like only P2Prada knows the truth about T-90s - the unpublished, unacknowledged truth that he is shouting from the rooftops - only if someone will listen to and believe him! I think at this point we should name P2Prada as the Moses to the god of RussTech (Russian technology) - in short...
  20. ace009

    Main Battle Tanks and Armour Technology

    AFAIK, Rifled guns were considered to have more accuracy than the Smootbore guns, but with the new age shells, targetting systems, that difference has gone away. The smoothbore guns have longer life and apparently can fire missiles more easily than the rifled guns, which is why most western...
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