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  1. abingdonboy

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Yeah P17AU seems likely in the next 2-4 years considering this is from MDL’s CMD himself (that said no DAC sanction exists for them as of now and that’s a painfully slow process in itself) IN really is a complete mystery to me but then all 3 services have the same slow moving car crash...
  2. abingdonboy

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Exactly. If the tech isn’t ready or the design isn’t finalised then they’d be better off ordering another 3-4 P15C now instead of 5 P18 5 years from now, just like with the SSK the Destroyer supply will stop within the next 2-3 years, this is criminal. There shouldn’t be any breaks in production...
  3. abingdonboy

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Haven’t seen anyone from IN mention 17B and even then timelines are a worry. Come 2026 all 17As will be made so if they are going to go for 17Bs they need to make the orders in the next 2 years to ensure seamless production. That’s almost a fantasy
  4. abingdonboy

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    That means it’s not coming for at least 15 years
  5. abingdonboy

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    NGF seems to be disappearing from IN discourse?
  6. abingdonboy

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    2024-25 for RFP, 3/4 years of haggling and red tape for contracts to be signed then 6-7 years for the first boat to be ready. So as thought NG ships are all for mid/late 2030s. Between mid/late 2020s when P-15B/17A/11356s are all completed and 2035++ IN will not induct a single large warship and...
  7. abingdonboy

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Let’s hope so, might give the IN a good kick up the backside to green light some pending efforts of theirs but like pretty much every Pakistani super weapon pan of the last 20 years this is mere fantasy, Pakistan is back at the IMF begging bowl
  8. abingdonboy

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    The Indian navy is all over the place when it comes to planning, everything is piecemeal, delayed and overcomplicated. They’ve been trying to get new SSK, NUH, IMRH, mine sweepers for the best part of 15 years and haven’t made progress on ANY front. They are now arguing about IAC-2’s specs as...
  9. abingdonboy

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    What a joke, a handful of units every 20 years, nothing ever changes. meanwhile the PLAN is adding the equivalent to the WNC fleet every year Come 2030s Indian economy will be 2-3x the current size, what’s their excuse now?
  10. abingdonboy

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Build starts in 2028-29 means keel laying? Which would mean a contract in 2026-7 (as per P17A timelines) this is as close to the optimal utilisation of the yards as can be imagined Any indications about NGD and NGF numbers? When are they going to start ordering double digits at a time instead...
  11. abingdonboy

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    After 2026 MDL and GRSE will have the capacity to start work on NGD surely? for that contract would need to be signed in 2024 (assuming a 2 year Buildup period before the keel is laid like with the 17As) could see the first NGD by 2031/2. Why not? If not they should order another 2-3 17As to...
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