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It’s 2023, China has been pouring in 10s of billions into their foreword infrastructure for over a decade and their LOCs are far more developed a long conflict favours the PLA now

Unable? a nation the can put rovers on the moon has the industrial capacity to make such basic cr@p, the IA wants you to believe India can’t produce a half decent assault rifle or even boots

It would be fascinating to see the Chinese activating all the back doors in Indian comns equipment they’ve surely built up that’s before they even unleash their enormous mechanised conventional advantage on Indian units and bases. IA is arguing over a few 100 guns, the Chinese have inducted...

AIT? This tap can be turned off very easily should the West so desire. India has not fought an all out war in 50 years, you seem to be under the impression all conflicts are short and limited in scope, anyone that has studied any peer conflict will tell you it comes down to local industrial...

Sorry but that’s loser mentality and also not even achieving the objective you want. how does one compete against a military industrial complex such as China’s? By importing your weapons and relying on global supply during wartime? How did that work out for Ukraine? Think the West will step up...

Waste of time trying to produce something better than what the GSQR demanded, they tried and this is the cr@p the army pushed back with. it takes a sick mind to turn a strength into a weakness but that’s Exactly what they did with ATAGS Give them whatever brochure photocopied specs they demand...

Less strength than the Pakistani army with 6-8x the budget https://x.com/someplaosint/status/1706322414395601189?s=46&t=8QPJecNQmmoeL0BRyMQdjg A ‘nationalist’ govt with a super majority for almost 10 years, a specific self reliance target and this is the result? The Chinese are so lucky their...

IA again asking for the laws of physics to be broken- 12t for a 155/52 gun? Even ATHOS and DHANUSH-52 are 14-15t, ATAGS has a 25L chamber too. So 17-18t that it will be isn’t unreasonable. speeding up of Dhanush is a fantasy without larger orders, who orders~100 guns and expects high Production...

No world class OEM exists that doesn’t have massive support from domestic orders, low run production purely for export increases unit costs and makes long term support uneconomical. Where margins are close there’s no way Indian products can compete

BF CEO saying they don’t expect orders for MGS for 7 years says it all. then you get some clowns coming along and asking why India doesn’t have BAEs, Samsungs, IAIs etc for itself. watch any defence industry summit panel on YT all the executives are asking for are clear timelines, consistent...

They were banking on -1600 units (towed gun requirement from FARP), corrupt mfers in IA/MOD scuppered this plan

https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/1707540026035159320?s=46&t=8QPJecNQmmoeL0BRyMQdjg

You’re joking right? This has 0 to do with capabilities, ATHOS is a mediocre product IA has obsessed over it for years and it’s fair to speculate why

No RFP for MGS, just AON Only 145+100 155/52 guns ordered in the last 20 years, not much chance they order a single extra unit (other than 100 more K9 and maybe the ATAGS in 2-3 years) in the next 5 years that’s for sure

When ATHOS wins, ATMOS becomes the favourite for MGS ever since Indian guns became a decent option the IA has gotten very passive about their arty plans

ATHOS with an Indian name and 50.00001% ‘indigenous content’ it’s so obvious what the game is here this RFI wouldn’t exist if they had any plans to order more than ~300 ATAGS this Is the complete Arjun treatment- token measly orders for domestic product, 1000s for the imported toys, TOT is...

Where’s the RFI? Let’s see what actually is in the writing. It’s been clear form day 1 they were going to manipulate the whole process to get ATHOS

ATHOS has been the obsession with these corrupt mofos for years, everything is being manipulated to make it happen IDDM my a££

These dirty b@stards https://theprint.in/defence/not-atags-vajra-or-dhanush-a-new-gun-will-be-the-mainstay-of-indian-artillery/1781864/

Wtf is the IA’s game here? 1600 towed gun requirement being split up to ensure high cost, low delivery genuinely hard to tell if these guys are corrupt as hell or legitimately retarded