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Interesting part of this is it’s primarily for land targets and has little optimisation for maritime targets so it confirms the fighters of the IN are not merely for fleet AD but can/will have a utility against onshore targets. This is a big change from the Harrier days This was always logical...

Confirmation NGD will have a BMD role? https://x.com/varun55484761/status/1719981771260117007?s=46&t=8QPJecNQmmoeL0BRyMQdjg

Exactly. US and France (U.K. previously and maybe building back up to it) are the only nations to maintain a credible high tempo carrier force (and the French struggle with presence because of only having 1 carrier) that conduct long global deployments away from their shores. Has an Indian CBG...

Anyone have any confirmation of the IN’s plans for the Indra 3D radars? https://www.naval-technology.com/news/lanza-n-radars-delivered-to-augment-indian-navy-vessels/ is it confirmed they’ll be on the P17As and are earmarked to replace the LW-08s on the P15As (and Bs?) the P15Bs are being built...

Any confirmation of the VSR/AEW radar that’ll be on the 17As? For the love of god don’t let it be the LW08

LHD/LPD are pointless without the marine infantry to go with it+ serious heavy lift helicopter capabilities. How many years did it take just to order 24 Romeos? what’s India going to do with LHDs?

RFP 2024-5, orders maybe 2028, delivery maybe 2035-2040s for 4+4 ships India is not a serious country at all. in 2035 the Indian economy will be >$12 trillion and the Indian services are buying things as if they are Greece. I really wonder where all the budgets are expected to go post 2030...

This is a bit of a unfair comparison imo considering all other than the 17As have had series production up and running for a while. It’ll be interesting to track the timelines for 4-6 hulls of the 17A run, I imagine they’ll come at least 12 months faster than the first 1-2 hulls and I imagine...

This isn’t the military fiction thread

They killed AWACS(I), where does 777 come from?

LPD/LHD are very much post 2030 fantasies now as are NGF and NGD imo

A bird in the hand….. Vikaramaditya is barely operational, Vikrant will be a step up but as with any first of the class series ship she’ll have certain baked in issues. A sister ship will come much faster than IAC-2 or any other fantasy project, CATOBAR adds another layer of complexity and...

‘Prepping’ god Indian babus and generals use such vague and lame language when it comes to IDDM stuff, when it’s their gold plated toys they have firm timelines ready to share. ‘prepping’ for a sister to Vikrant many years after she’s even left the dockyard,and they call the IN the ‘builder’s...

Import list is such a misnomer. To get around it all they have to do is supply SKD to an Indian ‘partner’, there’s nothing stopping the MFSTAR for any additional ships in India

The stupidity not to have the third batch of 11356 with MFSTAR/LRSAM from day one for ships that will be inducting in the mid to late 2020s….

Obviously, anyone expecting any different doesn’t follow Indian defence procurement mismanagement Only AONs exist, not even an agreement on the costs involved/support package/etc has been reached (talks haven’t even begun), best best cast scenario contracts are inked for one of these in 3-4...

I get the logic but it’s completely out of touch with the times. There’s ample experience and expertise within india to build up a shipyard without foreign hand holding especially for vessels as out of date as these, ‘ToT’ what is actually cutting edge that could be transferred that isn’t...

The only way GSL was going to be built up was getting Russian help? This is some whacked up socialist thinking from the 1960s L&T could make the largest commercial shipyard in the world if they needed to As I said above, GSL could’ve got P17As to build if the idea is giving them capacity

Chinese will try to tie India down at the land borders and to its coast using the PN frankly I haven’t seen much indication that the Indian strategic establishment is trying to counter this, they seem to be playing along perfectly with Chinese intentions. a strong IN is the greatest threat to...

The industrial part of this never made sense to me. Overtly they said this deal will help build up GSL’s capacity and give india another yard capable of making PSC but 1) the IN is already unwilling to give existing private (L&T) yards contracts for PSC so capacity is already being wasted 2)...