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  1. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    K9 Vajra includes cost to build factory of production, ToT charges etc. Also,the way I see it, howitzers are used from a distance of 25-40km and the armor is unnecessary. Howitzer don't fire in direct line of sight and can't be targeted by enemy directly either. I don't see the need for armour...
  2. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    Arjun chassis? :shock: Arjun costs 50 crore rupees and a howitzer costs 4 crore rupees. Why would you want to waste such a costly tank on a cheap howitzer? Why not mount it on a 4x4 jeep? Cheap and easy
  3. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    How does it matter if it is developed indigenously or copied from others? Why not just upgrade dhanush to 155x52? Dhanush may be copied but still it is produced indigenously
  4. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    Please enlighten me with the difference between ATAGS and Dhanush. Both are howitzers. Neither is self propelled. What is the reason for having two different types of howitzer? Isn't it better to have just 1 type of howitzer?
  5. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    Actually SMERCH has multiple rockets. Which one they launch varies. I have heard of HE explosives rocket with 90km range. Can you give source to say 120km?
  6. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    SMERCH has a range of 90km. 100+ rocket is possible but it will be hugely inaccurate. Imagine a circle of 1km radius - yeah that much inaccuracies. Guided rockets have minimum 1% inaccuracy and at 100km it is 1km. Some cheaper unguided rockets might have inaccuracy of 3%
  7. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    Are you trying to tell me that pinakas are considered to be artillery?
  8. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    The reason artillery is used is because it is cheap and can be fired in thousands per hour with very little expense. It just needs a metal shell and some charges, both are kept separately from each other and hence are very simple to mass manufacture. Artillery is not a pinpoint accurate gun...
  9. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    So, artillery = fucking thing Hmm..... Artillery fire means cannon launched bullets. Now, cannon launched rocket makes little sense as it is better to use MRBL. Even the cannon uses charges to blast the shell. Instead of that charge, use it as rocket propulsion fuel to launch rockets. You...
  10. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    The maximum range of our artillery is 42km with no rocket propelled shells. The maximum range of pinaka rockets is 65km.
  11. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    Artillery can never have 100km+ range unless it is a rocket propelled artillery shell. If one could do such a big artillery, then people wouldn't be building missiles. The barrel of the artillery is made of metal and that imposes certain restrictions regarding pressures. If the pressure is...
  12. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    The media is always quick to point out even a small snag as utter failure. By this logic, none of the weapons system in the world would be a success.
  13. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    It must have been the test in May this year as I mentioned above. He must have got confused.
  14. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    This is the third time this is happening in Pokhran. In 2013 a shell burst within the barrel, causing the barrel to get damages. In May 2017, muzzle was damaged as a shell burst just as it ejected from the barrel. This time too, the muzzle broke suggesting that shell might have burst after...
  15. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    You mean National Cadet Corps have artillery now? :cruisin2:
  16. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    There is no fixed cep. CEP changes as distance increases. CEP is the radius of a circle with 50% probability of hit. I am speaking of 95% probability of hit. That is at 20km, 95% of rockets will hit within 1% of the distance from target which is within circle of 200m radius. For unguided one, it...
  17. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    Helicopter NAG (Heline) has range of 8km while ground based NAG has range of 4km. Artillery has range of 40km. MRBL like Pinaka with range of 65km ca be used to target artillery but the accuracy of these MRBL is not very high despite guidance mechanism as they are merely rockets and not...
  18. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    Yes, i know that. I even mentioned about that earlier. My point is that artillery is not the 1st attack wave in fullscale war. Only in limited war, artillery comes 1st. "1st" is the key word here. You are missing that. Artillery is always needed in every war. But priority is not first in a...
  19. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    I don't actually concern myself of defensive formation in limited war. I am speaking of full scale war. Limited wars are big waste of time and pointless. Either fight full-scale or don't. Yes, in case of defensive formation during limited war, we use artillery. But, full scale war will use...
  20. Vijyes

    Indian Army Artillery

    These devices have range of only 4km and are not usable for 40+km artillery round fire directly by crew of howitzer. That is what spotters use to find targets:crying:. But conveying of coordinates is via sat-com (satellite communication device) and not direct push from the lisa device. How many...
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