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  1. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    All the best. Is Kefken island your first spaceport? It is quite impressive that despite so many economic challenges you are able to fund so many critical defence and aerospace projects simultaneously, fully cognizant that one day they would yield results. I hope that your president sees the...
  2. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    It is all about the lobbies. One smart thing that the Turkish government did was to emphasize defense as an industry and eliminate anyone lobbying for foreign weapons. Turkey's aspiration is to return to the position it held during the Ottoman era. Indian aspirations are not to become a power...
  3. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    This is great info. Thanks a lot! Start with baby steps, and you will become a space power soon. All the best to you guys.
  4. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    @rodeo do you have a dedicated space rocket program? I recently saw the video on Tayfun launch and was wondering whether Turkey is planning a complete program of ballistic missile arsenal independent of NATO's command structure.
  5. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    You underestimate Turkey's ability to punch above its weight. Let's explore their unique approach to bridging such gaps. They are adept at playing their geopolitical poker; meaning what they lack in R&D they get through coaxing disgruntled NATO partners. For example, Turks have been coaxing...
  6. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    There is a reason for that. India being a chaotic democracy has a lot of arms lobbies to tackle with. Meanwhile Erdogan can quash any such lobbies with an iron first easily. Look at how IAF is defiantly holding out against indigenous projects. Till now they haven't committed to Tejas Mk2 or the...
  7. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    We did. India was sanctioned after our nuclear tests in 1998. That's what pushed the projects like HAL Tejas, GTRE Kaveri jet engine, a slew of indigenous radar programs, Arjun MBT, complete self-reliance in the space sector, etc. Our problem is that our defence industry has only started...
  8. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    Love the scimitar propellers and the canted design of the wings. Makes it look Batman-ish. The focus on improving indigenous defence capabilities is really impressive and it is something I reiterate here (much to the chagrin of some of my fellow countrymen here). Turkey has made remarkable...
  9. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    Let's not kid ourselves here. The British have had some of the best aerospace companies in the world before they were seconded by the US and Russia. Even today, their propulsion technology is second to none. BAE Systems is still one fo the most advanced technology companies on earth. Turkey in...
  10. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    All the elements you have stated as problems are within the control of the government in India. None of these are extraneous. Several countries modernized their forces through downsizing manpower and increasing the mechanization component. Turkey itself did the same after the fall of USSR when...
  11. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    I am realistic. Saving face is precisely what hinders real progress because it prevents us from acknowledging out gaps. This concept does not work in real life; maybe in social gatherings with neighbours present at our homes. What you call "pessimism" is called reality check here. No conflict...
  12. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    I am specifically talking about UAVs here. Please don't bring other things. This way, the debate can go into land systems as well. Would you like to go there? TAI-129 is a license-built version of the A-129 and this is something even new enthusiasts know it. My point is, they are using whatever...
  13. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    Changing already. I shared the link with you in my previous post. It is easy to mock; but very difficult to acknowledge and improve. Show me how many Tapas UCAVs have been inducted. The damn thing isn't even armed yet even as a concept. Meanwhile, Rajnath Singh is importing like no tomorrow...
  14. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    Buddy, I am not talking about a moral high ground here. I am saying that we are a much larger power and a more prominent nation, both historically, militarily as well as economically. Despite this, we are unable to punch at our weight, let alone above it. Bayraktar has several imported...
  15. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    I vividly remember several Indian members mocking Turkey's ambitions to become a drone-based powerhouse a few years ago. And then they all ended up with eggs on their face. While the DRDO cannot even deliver a Rustom-2, with the only achievement being a change in its name to Tapas UCAV, Turks...
  16. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    Turkey controls Bosphorus, the most critical location for the NATO alliance in southern/southeastern Europe. Bosphorus is the gateway to engage Russia. If Turks are pushed too far, they can simply pull out of the Montreux Convention and completely ban non-Black Sea nations' naval fleets from...
  17. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    Turks would have never collaborated with India as their ambitions are very different from ours. India's policy is that of pacifist negotiation being the PLAN A while defensive use military as PLAN B. Post 1947, no Indian government has had the spine to encourage territorial takeover and leverage...
  18. Tshering22

    Turkish defense industry news updates

    At least they are trying. BTW their 5th gen programme is aimed at a much earlier launch in 2023, than our AMCA which will heavens know when, launch. So we need to admire them rather than criticise them.
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