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Not really. Both IAF and IA are buying similar strike drones. Whether it is Tapas or Archer NG both are armed and both the services want them. Basically they’re duplicating the efforts.

The turf war to control helicopters between the IAF and the Army is such a waste of resources. Attack helicopters are anti-armour and close air support specialist platforms. These are supposed to be at the beck and call of the armoured/infantry divisions; not awaiting paperwork and formality to...

Looks like ACM Chaudhary fell down the stairs today morning. :lol: On a serious note the AoN for 156 Prachand attack helicopters confirms his statements.

Training, back-end support and logistical costs considered, this is a fair deal. Remember, this will be the overall calculated cost for a rolling period.

The next one? Make it mandatory for them to confirm it or if they don't, then do not approve any attempts to acquire any imported attack helicopters in the near future and cut their budget. Without punitive measures, they will not learn it the hard way. Sorry, I love the forces and the brave men...

The LCH was demanded by the Army & IAF after the MI-35s couldn't take on the altitudes of the Kargil war, forcing IAF to use jets to bomb the enemy. This is the Army's creation. LCH was developed with their input and the QSRs that they had presented. If they did not want it, why did they demand...

I understand. India's defense budget is abysmally low compared to the threats we have on our borders. The simple conclusion from our debate is that IAF and IN need to a boost to their capital budgets.

Then it makes even more sense for IAF to not spend so much on helicopters and focus those funds on fixed-wing. Army has a bigger budget and should take it over. IAF will always remain a support force for both Army and Navy and that's how it works. Even USAF is only secondary to the Army and Navy.

IAF is idiotic and lives in the 80s even today. Helicopters are CAS and logistical assets and should therefore be under the Army Aviation. All Mi-17s, Dhruvs, Apaches, LUHs, LCHs, Rudra, and Chinooks should be with the Army except come VVIP and commander-user helicopters with IAF.

DON'T KNOW?! They were the ones who wanted LCH right after Kargil war sine Mi-25s were unable to fly that high!

Rajnath is a political appointment. You need to understand that he is not PM Modi's first choice; he's there because Rajnath was the one who elevated NaMo to the PM candidate position. If Rajnath has to step down, there has to be some major gaffe done by him that makes the public angry. If Modi...

They can place orders and defer payments. HAL is still government entity and no government-to-government entity transaction gets complete in one go.

Like I said, the good PM has to shove it down their throats. Rule out any import by putting gunships & associated weapons on the MoD Negative Import List. They are using trademark delay tactics so that they can continue importing. The current air chief seems to be in the foreign pockets. I...

Deep state = a shadowy entity that works to set the balance in favor of the nation whenever politics goes overboard. Civil services are the 5th column in India.

Not happening. We don't have that mindset. Also India lacks a deep state.

:rofl: Come on! This is how all ministers handover stuff to the services. You weren't expecting him to do a fly around in the LCH were you?

Developing manned gunships in the next decade would become an obsolete practise unless we are an invasive/expeditionary force. We need to understand that India will never be an expeditionary power even when we become #1 on earth somewhere down the line in the future. It would be prudent to...

I hope Modi Ji insists on inaugurating all the defence platforms like Tejas MK2, AMCA, etc. with quick and randomly-thought dates being handed out to DRDO and HAL. 😜. At least due to this pressure, they will deliver the stuff on time. :bplease: On a serious note, he is doing this already in...

I don't see what is there to chuckle, given the fact that all orders + deliveries happened in under a decade.

Then the only option for India at this point is to expedite priority delivery of LCHs fast. 22 Apaches were delivered in a matter of 4-5 years. That was made possible because US has an assembly line & BD managers getting more and more sales from overseas. LCH is one of the very few gunships...