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Yes? Can you post this research of yours? Free websites are a let-down by a huge margin, I'm afraid. I can create one by myself and spew nonsense.

What? Can we have images of this APS on the MBT thread? Or are you claiming Varta is your invention?

Jane's is not exactly known for accuracy. People use it so that they can get preliminary values and good images. Oh, and 2.5 mm difference isn't really that much to troll militarysta :rolleyes:

I meant you for the Type-85/96, but not the ammunition. I don't consider you dumb. However, it is your opinion, and if I cannot change that, I don't care what you think.

I did not mean you, but one at def.pk whom I don't like. Not you.

Certified or predicted average? I meant predicted average values.

I don't know, ask Dazzler.

@Dazzler and @farhan_9909 a special for you :)) Type-IIM penetrator. Possibly underestimated since I just assumed the visible part as diameter. A fellow on tank net suggested it is around 580 mm. Of course, this is not a short penetrator, rather, it is very long considering the dimensions...

Seeing that this has been stagnant for more than a month, here it is: Estimation of KE-W A3 penetrator length: KE-W A2 and A3 have the same penetrator length and weight, but A3 variant has different propellant and 50 m/s more muzzle velocity. Seeing that performance of KE-W A2 is 660 mm at...

:confused: How are jacketed penetrators failed ideas?

Incredible, I never thought linear shaped charges can obliterate a penetrator completely :shocked: Also, sir, as I requested, can you provide images and information on modern Ukrainian APFSDS and Russian 3BM59/60? I'd be much obliged.

Thanks sir! I thought Vitiaz was a myth :(

@methos, @Damian, @militarysta Damian mentioned 125 mm Ukrainian "Vitiaz" which is supposed to have 760 mm penetration here:http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/land-forces/208-main-battle-tanks-armour-technology-86.html#post318394 Do you have any sources for this? Tanknet thread mentions...

Nice. Do you have something of this sort for Centurion?

What's the information on 3BM59/60? Never heard of it

Naiza looks like western APFSDS. The New one looks like our Israeli clones for T-72

Few questions - Sorry for poor illustrations- Le me worst artist in school and this was done in 2 minutes. :okay: 1) What is the length of the penetrator, first piece and the second piece and also the complete length farhan ? 2) The penetrator can't be very long now can it...

India has nuclear facilities all right but we import Uranium as it is not found in our country. Russia might supply DU but it will be in small quantities. PMO might not approve usage of DU. Since we have lot of thorium, India is trying to switch to Thorium which is many times better than Uranium...

Depleted uranium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia See that too. When DU impacts armour some parts turn into aerosol and mix with air. Anyone who breathes will be affected and their children will get birth defects. Basra birth defect rate:

I respect Tanknet as a source and "handling restrictions" is more than enough reason for tungsten for me.