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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    This may become off topic, #mods are requested to move it to a desired thread. Its not a matter that US are reliable or not, but they will have to participate just to secure themselves and their allies (SK, Japan and others). China is increasing their military in reference with the US military...
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    even IAC-3 will not be available before 2044-45 if work will get started from 2035 (just after the completion of IAC-2). And asa far as china is concerned, they will be threat from entire region than why we would extensively invest in building these giant machines when we need more subs and...
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    IAC-2 itself has timeline for 2035 and will have 65t displacement with 50-55 aircrafts (jets+helicopters+probably UAVs) For IAC-3, I may expect it only as Vikramaditya's replacement and IAC-4 too farther projection, so I'm not worried about IAC-4,5,6....
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    Presently, Navy has the plan to have only 3 ACC, 2 for regular operations and 1 as maintenance reserve. As yesterday, IN chief said that ioc-2 will be a flatbed with Catapult launch is enough to speculate that there will be no Vikrant class in future. Along with this there will be Russian jet on...
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    you are talking about 1970s when CVN-68 costs nearly what you stated.. http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=4200&tid=200&ct=4 if you want to calculate the cost in FY2020, it will exceed $9.5bn due to inflation and this all without EMALS and AAG. Good Day..
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    Yup, Ford class carrier was planned for $5 bn but it costs more than $14 bn https://fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RS20643.pdf Or we can simplified as $12.8 billion + $4.7 billion R&D (estimated) I remember that we discussed it earlier..
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    Its the very recent decision by IN.
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    @aditya10r Now this what I expecting from him. You might be correct for this case... @Kshithij IN already mentioned that they require 3 Aircraft carriers out of which 2 will remain active at all time, to control IOR. And for controlling IOR , we don't need nuclear propulsion and unlimited...
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    Best of luck for you...:playball: By the way, I'm only calculate the timeline from the available data. As of now, IAC-2 is not the IN priority, so I can expect war footing pace. For expecting such pace of development, we need multiple times Defence budget.
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    Do you know, the reactor for Arihant class was developed by BARC and there is only unconfirmed reports about the uprating reactor to unconfirmed level. Right now, Indian Navy denied to find the new development of reactor for IAC-2. So, why should BARC go ahead when the sole user of the reactor...
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    Still you are dependent on speculations.. If you want anything on time than you have all the components which are already Developed. You can't wait for others to complete its development which may require further modifications which needs further delays.. Correct your calculations about height...
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    Please share your opinions for Indian options for IAC-2 (without speculations and hypothesis): 1. Propulsion (power source + gear systems) 2. Launch and recovery system. 3. Radars (long range and multi function) 4. MRSAM/LRSAM 5. Other short range armaments. 6. IMPS (Integrated Platform...
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    I think you are to much inspired by movies and theories.. Let me elaborate the case in practical manner Only if we decide our requirements(which is underway) for IAC-2 than after we require ~12-15 years (with no delays for anything). We are not talking about UK, which is many times ahead of...
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    IAC-2/INS VISHAAL is still in study phase, hence we can expect 12-15 years for designing, manufacturing and extensive sea trial (only if no failure occurred during this period) and trust me it's the expected minimum time. That means the deployment of IAC-2 will not be possible before 2035. And...
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    Rafales on IAC-2 (aka INS VISHAL) will be very unlikely if we managed to operate our AMCAs from it. Along with this E-2D will become obsolete by that time.
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    India has no need to travel round the globe with ACC for combat missions so that is why we don't have that much requirements of high endurance and nuclear power for ACC. Also, India need only two operational Aircraft Carriers with additional one for maintenance replacement. By the way, INS...
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    I think Government is looking for maintain the commonality in naval & IAF fighters. Further Dassault is looking for higher thurst Engine for RAFALE fleet and here SNECMA is in touch with India for developing a new engine which can be used with all future Indigenous jets and RAFALEs too. Hence...
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    INS Vishal (IAC- II) Aircraft Carrier - Flattop or Ski Jump

    What your thoughts about this bird for VISHAL? USMC F-35B fire its gun pod for the first time while flying The pod, which is strapped to the belly of the Navy and Marine Corps jets, can fire at 55 rounds per second and carries 220 rounds of 25 mm caliber.
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