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  1. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    :look like R-73 training round (no fin) , R-27ET and R-27ER
  2. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    I didn't criticize you because you copy and paste from different sources, I criticize you because you think a random Wikipedia paragraph which can be edited by any random person is gonna be more accurate than Vympel talking about their own product. And as I mentioned earlier, there are a...
  3. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    Some bonus from the flight manual Rough translation for non Russian member: Allowed launch range R-27ET substantially the same as that of the R-27ER but PPP are limited by TGS target capture range. The launch of R-27ET missiles is possible only with an interval of at least 8 s or thermal...
  4. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    That high lighted paragraph from Airpower Australia is basically just Carlo Kopp going to fantasy land. Firstly, there is no such thing as a R-77 T in production, just like R-27EA and R-27EM, the infrared R-77 is nothing more than a paper missile that never got beyond the concept stage...
  5. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    No, I am not mixing between infrared guidance and imaging infrared guidance, it is quite impossible to make such a mistake given that their working principles are completely different Did you just directly copy and paste a paragraph from Wikipedia and expect that to be taken as more believable...
  6. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    The seeker of FPAs (imaging) infrared missile will see target as a 2D image: Like this:
  7. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    I think it is quite clear you don't actually understand any of the words you have just written and basically just mashing different unrelated terms together Firstly, the kinematic range of missile is the distance that it can fly before it fall down. It isn't related at all to the effective...
  8. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    Firstly, the seeker of R-73E and AIM-9X are not the same, R-73E use MK-80M which is a spinning reticle seeker. Whereas AIM-9X use a FPA seeker. In other words, R-73 is an infrared missile (IR) while the AIM-9X is an imaging infrared (IIR) missile. Secondly, the initial version of AIM-9X doesn't...
  9. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    Did I say India technology is bad? No. I only talk about current R-27T and R-27ET because they use spin reticle seeker, they can't be made LOAL
  10. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    Firstly, the missile in that link is RVV-BD which is supposed to be a modernized version of R-37 on Mig-31, it got no relation to R-77 whatsoever (it should be quite obvious as well since RVV-BD is 500 kg while R-77 is about 190 kg) Secondly, ramjet R-77 aka R-77M is not in production, the...
  11. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    No, you don't need a dedicated EW aircraft and to fool a fighter with AESA radar and you don't need to detonate a nuclear bomb in space to blind ground based AESA radar The most important values that you need to consider when assess the effectiveness of jamming are: Jamming to signal ratio...
  12. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    You should read carefully what version of R-27 which I said are paper project R-27EA and R-27EM are paper project R-27ET, R-27T, R-27R and R-27ER are real missiles that entered the production stage. 9B-1103K is a derivative of 9B-1348E seeker on R-77 (quite easy to see the similarity of their...
  13. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    Firstly, there are no R-27EA or R-27EM beyond the paper stage, they were only at the potential concept stage and never went further than that. Secondly, only the SARH seeker of R-27ER and R-27R have lock on after launch mode and mid course guidance R-27T and R-27ET (R-27 version with IR seeker)...
  14. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    There are 2 issues with this: 1- for a total passive shot, as in you don't turn on your radar. The attack range will be limited by the laser finder range of OLS irst system, which is often about 15-20 km. 2- R-27ET and R-27T are lock on before launch missile without mid course radio correction...
  15. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    Yes it wouldn't have made much difference even if Avenger1 have the same range missiles as the AIM-120C-5. But my point is that basic R-77 have very short range, as you can see in the diagram, at 10 km co-altitude R-77 range is 34% worse than AIM-120B for head on shot and 80% worse in tail...
  16. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    R-27EA and R-27EM never went into production, they weren't even fly tested so there isn't any point in mentioning them as they are pretty much cancelled paper project. At the moment we only have R-27ER, R-27R, R-27T and R-27ET. and, these quoted range are pretty much just max kinematic range...
  17. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    Yes, speed and altitude will have huge impact on missile range, and AWACS did play a huge role on that fight. However, it is also true that R-77 is a shorter range missile than AIM-120, even the previous AIM-120A and B, let alone AIM-120C-5. This is due to the lattice fin and greater fin area on...
  18. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    It is important to keep in mind that the 90 km detection range of OLS-30 only apply if you looking at the rear aspect of target with their unshielded tail pipe, if you are looking at the frontal aspect of enemy (like when they are flying toward you) then the detection range will varied between...
  19. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    Here are some facts you need to know first: a) For beyond visual range engagement, anti air missiles don't fly a direct part toward targets, they climbed up and dive down in a ballistic arc, that is to maximize the time missiles cruising in thin air, therefore conserving the limited fuel and...
  20. StealthFlanker

    Sukhoi Su 30MKI

    You can fulling jam a radar. Imagine it like someone shine some super bright light at your eye, when you trying to find a sand grain from 100 m. Jammer doesn't try to make the return of aircraft look like surrounding, it try to deny targetting information either by sending pulse with different...
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