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Mr sour grapes I would request you to first go through all posts before yours. Anyways its better to know more about the subject before claiming that you know what we are discussing? no one is talking about direct involvement of Russians or MIG .

But still you need sukhoi 30 mkk for your airforce . you need Russian Pesa radar for ZJ 10 and Russian Engine as well. what exactly is china contribution to planes so far made in China. metal for airframes and cockpit ? I donot see anything else . Wrong thread dude talk about these in economy...

Its something new . Here in India we dont enjoy shit at all . I wonder how we mange your bullshit .

I know that too BG . Thats the reason Pakistanis are dieing to downgrade engine , radar and avionics of JF 17 with help of France .

I know it BG . Even AESA work on doppler principle . AESA is nothing but a new technology\ device that uses same old doppler principle . Thats why I always say about you. You open your mouth and think Later . Sometimes its better to keep quite of you dont know what you are talking about .

Most important factor I for got to mention about Chinese AESA radars. Unlike other radars across the world they donot work on Doppler principle. China has invented a new principle for their RADARS to work.

Well at least PAK- FA will have its own Engine and RADAR and Avionics . Those components will not be cheap copy of any other countries planes. Develop a normal Engine first and then a supercruise one before you can dream of comparing it with PAK FA .

SO ? They are going to get F35 and will start working on 5th generation very soon. Who know USA may reopen F22 Raptor production lines.

no yo what is so special in that news from your big brother America. They didn't say anything about plane being state of the art or has potential to be a world beater . Read carefully before jumping with joy.

Nice justification IMHO . I understand if Government didn't invited any civilian and its a top secret projest. but when so called civilians were there for the function does it makes sense to issue no official statement or releasing the pictures ? moment civilians were there it means government...

You are right . we are not familiar with culture of blurred image , less blurred , somewhat clearer, clear and crystal clear pictures. We are familiar with culture of either Crystal clear picture or no picture at all. You yourself has described about how much censorship you have in China. In...

They are better in analyzing what ? you guys are overfed by CCP Propoganda and your situation is same of that of a frog in well. That frog thinks that well is the world till he leaves the well.

Dont become a conspiracy expert without even seeing one clear picture. No one here has seen complete picture of the plane and you think Russians are fool enough to axe their own leg ?

I have both eyes and ears open. Hope you will update us with the progress.

where is that picture ? Is that also a stealth picture?

I thought we were talking about 5th generation planes not Nukes. Also as someone mentioned about Photoshop skill in reference to Plane . what do you say about that ?

your super computer is nothing more than Iphone that is made in china. out of 200 dollars China contribute to about 6-7 $ . This is what Chinese contribution is to that Supercomputer. you can fool people in China but not here .

BG there is a lot of diffrence between building something from scratch and assembling various components .of that super computer how many components are made in China? may be racks where they are assembled and display and input devices but all processing units will be imported . just to let...

I think you are not aware that we are first country to get military grade signal from Glonass. so forget about our Satellite navigation systems we have better than yours. Regarding Awacs its waiting for delivery of planes and sub systems are ready .