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  1. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Scratch that:- On a more serious note, Its more of a liability than an asset if they put it on an operational warship. If Americans can't overcome issues of rail wear, I don't think anybody else can. Americans had already made 30MJ railguns when they pulled the plug on their program. What is...
  2. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Hmm.. the rails being the limiting factor was stated in an official report to US Congress in 2018. Maybe they have found a lasting solution and this is subterfuge? Or maybe the guy is not considering things from an operational point of view and only considering it from an engineering point of...
  3. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Seen this pic before. But even so, the program is no longer funded by US mil because despite all the R&D, no good solution for the rail materials was found and there were bottlenecks developing guided rounds for the same. Even if they sort how to power the damn thing. It needs to provide some...
  4. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Railguns aren't happening anytime this half of the century. Lasers might though. Our P-18 is likely going to be what you described the P-18A as, but with indigenous CIWS instead of Pantsir and indigenous 127mm SRGM instead of Oto Merla. BTW, now that I think about it, is the Indian Navy...
  5. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Should be, but the future UVLS is yet to break cover as of now. Not much is known about the NGC other than that its a slightly larger and more role-balanced ship than the NGMV. NGMV are dedicated to Anti-Surface Warfare and missions like Op Trident. Consequently they are much faster than NGC...
  6. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    You know, when they write articles of how Project-18 destroyers will have LASERS and railguns and $hit, instead of it making me feel happier, it makes me feel insecure. Because what it would mean if this was true is that Project-18 destroyers won't occur anytime in the next two decades. :rofl:
  7. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    DRDO has publicly stated that AD-2 is meant to be comparable to SM-3 (IMHO the SM-3 Block 1A). While AD-1 will be comparable to Aster-30 (by which I assume they mean the Block2 variant of Aster 30). These two will give us two-tier BMD capability on our Naval fleet. Something even the Brits won't...
  8. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    No idea but it does make sense to quad pack it for our larger universal VLS. But on smaller ships of corvette class, they might go with a dedicated VLS for VL-SRSAM because that is the only configuration that has been tested so far and NGMV production contract is already inked so they need the...
  9. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Should be 32, but Navy RFI doesn't mention exact number. Usually its even number of 8-cell VLS so its either 16 or 32.
  10. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Nah. Its corvette with 8 BrahMos and 32 VL-SRSAM and low RCS, IR and accoustic signatures. Construction yet to start at CSL.
  11. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Kaveri Marine isn't powerful enough for destroyers or frigates though. Still, would be great if it came.
  12. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Imported ofc. In fact, with IEP, there might me more than just the powerplant that is imported. We really need a National Mission on Gas Turbine technology. But still, the sensors and weapons suite becoming almost all Indian is a big leap for us.
  13. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Actually, now that I think about it, maybe the radar on the mast is the X-band one. Makes sense since S-band LRMFR is not as good as an X-band at tracking and FCR of horizon targets because X-band has better performance against sea clutter.
  14. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Looks like it. Which is impressive considering its a 6 meter radar. Americans aren't placing their 6 meter AMDR on a mast even in their future DDG(X) design.
  15. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Not exactly, which is why I said its "possibly NGD". But there is a high chance it is 'cause it was in Navy's original presentation.
  16. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    There also seems to be a lot of space between the smokestack and the hangar. Possibly to house more VLS in addition to the ones towards the bow.
  17. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Possibly first pic of official render of NGD/P-18 class (courtesy @Vamsi ):- Too grainy to draw any conclusions but for some reason it looks huge to me. Its loooong.
  18. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    Well, tbf, there was some effort towards stipulating, reducing, the time from RFP to contract signing within just 2 years or so. Not sure if they will achieve it, but its one of MoD's goals right now. And if they can't do it for a domestic contract like warships, I doubt they'd be able to do it...
  19. Okabe Rintarou

    P-18/Next Generation Destroyer class (NGD)

    They are waiting for 2024-2025 for this because by then, the Dual Panel LR MFR radar for it will likely be validated on INS Anvesha. VL-SRSAM and maybe even AD-1 will be tested enough times and maybe, just maybe, we'll have some more clarity on what our future hypersonic CM will look like. Once...
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