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First step in solving a problem is to admit we have one. We are fine with the way things are. Laziness in the extreme sense. I'm with you on that. I want one of this.... rev the engine in chennai and SL will sink..... I don't know what happened to all the mad Engineers... one of my all time...

Lol kind of... the roof line and the A and C pillars seem to mimic the Range Rover giving the car a RR like silhouette .... though I do think the body is rather original... regardless, this time the Chinese are gunning for the TOP dogs from Europe, US and Japan and we are still sitting on the...

Swedes under Chinese payroll. What's stopping Mahindra and Tata doing the same? Not like they don't have the cash... @aditya10r I know Tata is putting out decent SUV designs, but if you want to know what 2017 designs look like, check out this Chinese SUV. Can Tata or Mahindras latest compete...

Tata, perhaps the aria and hexa look good. Mahindra? I don't know. All of their cars except the XUV500 look badly proportioned (thar doesn't count its design was never ours to start with). Most importantly, under the hood, zero innovation. Even chinese startups are challenging tesla. Tata and...

Our designers suck. Our design teams are nowhere as mature as their counterparts from the west. Our product Engineers are well known for half assed jobs. West and Japanese companies use suspension of all types from ancient torsion bars to latest F1 layout. They seem to have no problem in making...

Lol Tata has gone the secular route. It's a car that's in the middle of namaaz :pound::pound:

Oh god... why? Short? Check... narrow? Check... high riding? Check... out of place styling? Check.... I disapprove of this mediocre effort. I have come up with better designs back at school. Tata can do so much better, a decade ago, they had this in the palm of their hands and then blew it...

Lol I'm sure he can afford it if he can afford an E class in Singapore. Just to put it into perspective, the BASE model E class is 270000 sgd on road. For that price you can buy the TOP of the line all bells and whistles 911 turbo S in the USA. Or you can buy the regular 911 turbo and have 30000...

My house agent bought a new E class merc. He wasn't happy. He always says 'I would have bought a Porsche if only I was in the US'. :pound:

And you can own the vehicle only for ten years after which You have to renew COE. So it's better just to buy a new vehicle.

Yep.. that was the fast and the furious cast interview at Singapore.

That's the main problem here. The vehicle is expensive as it is. But before even buying the vehicle, you have to get a COE document from the government (which is just an A4 sheet of paper) for anywhere between 40-60% of the cost of the vehicle you are going to buy. Dealers won't sell unless You...

Yep! Thanks to Modi. :lawl:

The bike is about 12000 sgd + about 6000 sgd for COE. So on road about 18k SGD. just over 8 lakh inr.

Woah woah woah. Not in Singapore. I mean in India. I can't even afford a small car here. It's public transport for me !

Per capita GDP increase in action :D maybe someday I'll afford an AMG :X

@captscooby81 somehowbi doubt if Hyundai can project Kia like Maruti does nexa. Nexa's model has a clear cut difference in price and quality. I just checked Hyundai Sonata and Kia Optimas price. Both are basically the same cars underneath and cost around 30k$. They had a price difference of less...

Yes. My point is that the average Indian customer will not go for the ones with all the bells and whistles. india is a cost driven market. That's the point I'm trying to make. For example, there was a JV between Tata and Rover wherein rover would modify the indica to EU standards and badge it as...

Ok I should have been more specific. By luxury I didn't mean Merc or BMW levels. I meant the upper mid range. There are many tiers aren't there?Between Hyundai and Toyota, which one was considered to be of higher luxury? Hyundai firmly established itself with 'peoples car' image whereas Toyota...

@aditya10r @Kshatriya87 I got the trail of messages now :smile: I think Hyundai motors will shoot itself in its foot by introducing Kia in India. Most of Kias models are based off Hyundais and are in direct competition to each other. And I'm not sure if Kia's brand image alone is enough to lure...