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  1. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    No, that will not be the case. Historically, human societies have existed in a wide variety of cultural, religious and even irreligious contexts. There were societies that believed in cannibalism, ritual human sacrifice, religious conquest, separation of church and state and finally...
  2. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Ok well, #1 doesn't exist. #2 happens when the brain dies. Simple. :)
  3. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    I did some more research into this because the feats performed by the Swami are impossible and defy any scientific explanation, especially the one where he moved a 14 inch needle located 5 feet away to spin. Here's the entire record of the experiments: Swami Rama Beyond Biofeedback I haven't...
  4. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Your style of debating is throwing random claims at me and then running away when challenged. This is what happens when pseudo-rational claims meet hard science. So far: 1. You posted Dalai Lama's claims of knowing monks who stopped their hearts for "minutes".: Proven false 2. You claimed...
  5. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Thank you for the links. I am aware of all these amazing feats of Indian and Buddhist yogis/monks. Not a single one of them though, actually managed to STOP their heart. This is what I have been saying all along. A person of science will require evidence that is absolutely certain, whether one...
  6. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    I have provided you concrete links which have references to peer reviewed research at the bottom of the article. I expect you to provide a similar standard of evidence-specific links, and evidence that substantiates your claims. Not vague references to studies by Harvard scientists. If you...
  7. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Seriously man, if you have these kind of questions, you should get in touch with your primary school science teacher. I'm done wasting my time with you.
  8. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Whether it is hours or minutes is irrelevant. It is impossible to stop one's heartbeat and then re-start it purely by will. When the heart stops, consciousness is lost within 20 seconds and within 3 minutes, the brain dies from lack of oxygen. Cardiac arrest (stopping of heartbeat) is considered...
  9. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Viruses DO NOT die without a host. They merely become "inactive". A virus outside of a host is like a rock, but even after thousands of years if a host manages to ingest it, the virus will start to multiply and mutate! This is why "atheists" prefer not to argue with those of "faith"! Because...
  10. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    It's a bunch of meaningless gobbledygook. It is impossible for a human being to be "without breathing or heartbeat" for a few "hours". If the DL knows someone who can do this, he should ask them to get tested by a doctor (preferably a psychiatrist :lol:)
  11. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Look, the arguments you are making are so primary, they show a basic lack of knowledge of scientific advances in the past four or five decades. 1. Why does anyone have to die? All things undergo wear and tear, whether its living things or machines. You cannot expect your brand new BMW to stay...
  12. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    You have obviously never heard of quantum physics. Quantum theory is so "irrational", if looked at from the standpoint of "what you can see or feel or hear" i.e. classical physics, that it is mind boggling. In quantum theory things exist simultaneously in multiple different places and times...
  13. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Sigh. You're one of those fanatic xtians that cannot be reasoned with. So I'd rather not waste my time trying. Btw even in Christian theology (of which I probably know more than you), the existence of God never precludes the existence of the Devil. They both exist.
  14. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Just because something has not been fully understood by science yet does not mean it has a supernatural explanation or that science has automatically failed at something. It is because of science that humans have flown probes to the moon and beyond, that we have discovered cures for diseases...
  15. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    And what precludes an omnipresent Devil or indeed a group of devils? Please explain how a newborn baby "bears the sin of their parents".
  16. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    You can refuse to accept the truth, but therefore the truth does not change. As for consciousness instead of relying on the "wisdom" of men that lived thousands of years ago, maybe you should acquaint yourself with the progress modern science has made in deciphering this concept: You will...
  17. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    The Devil could be tormenting a group of people at a time and not tormenting another group of people. If I decide to take a bite of an apple, I would instantly devour millions of bacteria which would suffer horrible deaths in the acidic environment of my stomach. At the same time, the bacteria...
  18. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    In an ideal world everyone would be free of religious dogma. Whether someone wants to commit suicide or not is their own wish. As I mentioned, there is indeed no objective purpose or meaning to life, if there is, please explain it to me. Suicide is okay-but that does not mean I encourage mass...
  19. Known_Unknown

    The Atheism/Agnosticism Thread

    Life has no "objective" meaning. People continue to live because they prefer to find subjective meaning in their own lives, an excuse, because they believe existence, especially if it is a happy one, is preferable to non-existence. In addition, some people are brainwashed by religion into...
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