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  1. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    Probably the v2 FC31 prototype. Despite AVIC internal funding of development, we are yet to see a new prototype. Might be flight testing for the Export version marketed aggressively at Zhuhai and International Airshows. Any new contract prospects would necessitate additional testing and...
  2. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    No offense to regular Indian defense enthusiasts intended. Just demonstrating the effect of trolls on any serious defense forum. If you had joined 10 years ago or earlier you would remember a time when this forum had many many many international posters on every sub-forum. Trolls like...
  3. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    There are hundreds of AESAs in the Chinese airforce. 0 local "Indian AESAs" on even 1 operational IAF jet. Not 1 in Frontline service. The Airforce with the most combat capability across the full spectrum of large scale air warfare is: Setting up F35 aggressor units to simulate the J20 because...
  4. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    Why are you camparing a J10C to An F35? The comparison was J10C V Su35 and J16 VS SU 35. Sure, PESA and AESA are both phased arrays. China has used several naval and airborne PESAs before moving on to AESAs for Frontline ships and aircraft. AESAs are more capable. We both know that, so please...
  5. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    It is widely reported and accepted (Pentagon reporting since 2017 included) that both the J10C and J16 have incorporated AESA radars into their avionics and sensor suites. It was clearly demonstrated that smaller fighters with better sensor suites won out VS larger twin engine air superiority...
  6. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    Those pics are from 2001 https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dassault-reveals-conformal-tanks-131841/ Yes, Dassault tested CFT's 17 years ago, but not a single production Rafale has ever flown or been accepted into service with CFT's. The French Airforce and Navy do not use Dassualt's...
  7. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    SPECTRA is not a long range detection system fanboy. Its an integrated self defense suite. I repeat, you cannot detect fighters at long range with Missile Approach Warning Systems and flares. SPECTRA is primarily in place to protect the aircraft from infrared and radar guided missiles. Just...
  8. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    This is like debating a child. SPECTRA ie "Self-Protection Equipment Countering Threats to Rafale Aircraft" is as the name notes, a SELF PROTECTION electronic warfare suite. It is not meant to detect aircraft at long ranges genius. How exactly would missile approach warning sensors, jammers and...
  9. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    The FC31 has been flying for years now. Wouldn't that suit the AMCA better considering that it is a "paper plane" right now?
  10. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    As far as I know, the only publicly available picture of the second FC31 prototype with it's weapons bay doors open is this one, but it doesn't really show the weapons bay itself. Theres also this gif of the first prototype opening and closing it's bay doors in flight As to "RCS...
  11. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    Sourced from twitter:
  12. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    Missed 1 from the same test flight:
  13. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    A higher resolution pic of the second FC31 prototype in a different angle: Composite content is considerable on this revised version of the FC31
  14. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    "Now I know" your opinion/hopes. Try separating your conjecture from reality. Shengyang has not cancelled their FC31 programme. As usual.... All BS no source material.
  15. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    Usual Indian fanboy BS. You can't judge the turning radius of a jet based on an air show display of the first prototype in the programme. That's like judging the whole F35 programme by the performance of the X35 prototype. And please provide a source for your claim that the FC31 programme...
  16. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    You can subtract. Congratulations. Still doesn't explain why the sedate air-show performance of the first prototype would inform an imaginary decision to cancel the whole programme. But again, if you say so my Indian friend.
  17. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    If you say so my Indian friend....:biggrin2:
  18. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    2nd FC31 prototype in flight testing: I wonder why they've kept it in a primer coat for this long.
  19. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    If the SU30 is stealthier than a stealth platform, doesn't your statement imply that the flanker is a stealth platform? Still no source? So because is has a cockpit, wings and two engines it's a copy of the F22? Have you even compared pictures of each side by side before you made that...
  20. J20!

    J-21/J-31 Chinese 5th Generation Stealth Fighter

    Suuuure. So I'm assuming you couldn't find that source where you "read" that nonsense about the SU30 being "stealth"? The F22 is a heavy air superiority fighter. The FC31 is significantly smaller than the F22 and is a medium weight fighter. It's more akin to the F35 than the F22. Only 2...
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