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  1. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Every part? Nope But they do have assemblies and maintenance facilies for some... no?
  2. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Again, no argument from me. In military development and manufacturing industy terms, US is far ahead... Probably even more than is publicly available information. 🤷 VS Russia in aircraft manufacturing... Not so sure. That may have been true in the 2000s and early 2010's but today..? China has...
  3. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    🤷Components ARE mostly manufactured in 🇨🇳 and assembled at PAC in 🇵🇰. No argument from me.
  4. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    DCS is a game mate. It has no real bearing on actual warfighting. Secondly, the addition of 350kgs for the missiles and probably another 150kgs for the dual rack in extra weight is hardly going to make the jet "maneuver like a whale". If the load out was 8 bvr missiles + 2 wvr arms I'd agree...
  5. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    "Hindustannewshub"?... From your article: "Experts say that the Chinese weapons received by Pakistan can be of poor quality. This is the reason why Pakistan’s outdated F-16 and other weapons of western countries are still most effective against India. Recently, there was news that 4 Zulfiqar...
  6. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    JF17 block II's participating in the Gulf Shield exercise in Saudi Arabia:
  7. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    The JF17 is a modular design allowing for the integration of equipment from different contractors. The PAF selected the ASELPOD as the targeting pod for all Pakistani JF17's back in 2015...
  8. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    A Pakistani JF17 was photographed integrated with the Turkish advanced targeting pod, ASELPOD from defense contractor ASELSAN. http://www.aselsan.com.tr/en-us/capabilities/electro-optic-systems/air-platforms/aselpod-advanced-targeting-pod ASELPOD Advanced Targeting Pod Electro-Optical...
  9. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Calm down "internet warriors". You do know that even twin-seaters have one pilot in control at any one time, right? Aslam Imran was credited with the flight, even though there was another officer on-board.
  10. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    The first JF17B twin seater was ferried to PAC on February 8th 2018. A 55 minute first flight by Pakistani personnel took place on 10th March 2018 by Aslam Imran.
  11. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Your biggest problem is trying to ridicule JF17 for not being a Jaguar or a Mig 29. Different designs different capabilities. JF17 is a light multi role combat jet. It is obviously not going to haul the same amount of ordinance to the same ranges that a twin engine medium weight Mig 29 can or a...
  12. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    The flight profile, flight time and payload are right there for anyone with the eyes to see them. 1800km flying a high high high flight profile for a 3.5 hr flight time carrying two 1100 litter tanks, a single 800 litter centerline tank, 2 MRAAMs and 2 SRAAMs. Or an air-to-ground payload of 4 x...
  13. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    ...............................................whatever you say...
  14. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Barak 8 claims aside, everything in your post is true. It would be hard for any opposing forces to assault a CBG wih ASM carrying jets alone considering the carrier's CAP fighters. What I dispute is this: Barak 8 CANNOT INTERCEPT A PLATFORM LAUNCHING ANTI-SHIP MISSILES FROM 200+km OUT. IT DOES...
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    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Fanboys are exhausting to converse with. Corrections. Most of Brahmos's flight path like the Yakhont its derived from is a HIGH ALTITUDE CRUISE PHASE that can go as high as 15 000m. http://www.claws.in/images/journals_doc/SW-Autumn2010.135-138.pdf Any 100+km LR ADM system will have multiple...
  16. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    N8 Regulus was a turbo-jet powered cruise missile. Germany's AS34 was a rocket powered cruise missile with a 35km range. Neither of these followed a ballistic trajectory chief. AGAIN CM400AKG is NOT A CRUISE MISSILE. It follows a ballistic flight path from launch to impact which is why it has a...
  17. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Again, your media consistently trips over itself with simple designations. http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/navy-successfully-test-fires-barak-8-long-range-missile-from-ins-kolkata/ Barak 8ER IS NOT OPERATIONAL neither is its army counterpart LRSAM. And even if it was...
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    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Calm down and read what I wrote Chief. I am disputing @nongaddarliberal 's claim that Barak 8 can shoot down any aerial platform launching from 200+km away. Or that land-based S400's can protect a carrier at sea from ASM carrying jets. Both are simply unrealistic at best and just impossibilities.
  19. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    Carrier killer what? the term "Carrier killer" is tabloid spin, not an actual designation. Please elaborate on which actual "French, American, British" missiles you''re talking about.
  20. J20!

    JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 Xiaolong

    You're tripping over your own designations. Barak 8 installed on D63, D64 and D65 are all 70km range SAMs. From your own source: LRSAM/Barak 8-ER is NOT in service with the IN. People here tend to confuse future improvements with facts on the ground(or the sea in this case).
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